[SnutteN55]

Hello, i'm level 80 havoc (i've tried conflag too)demonologist and i only got 1 question. Why does demo's damage in pvp sux against all other classes? In PvE, with conflag spec, demonologist is awesome, but in pvp it really sux. Please change this, it's not really fun suck in pvp when you are playing on a pvp server. I'm playing on Wildsoul btw.

[Kauhanen]

Because FU*com hates us.

[Irxy13]

You gonna love it - they nerfed it even more, according to testlive.

[st4nth3m4n]

They dont suck, you suck!

Demos are supposed to be out of reach of any soldiers.
What you are doing wrong is that you are toe to toe dueling or getting jumped.

get a group, pvp against another group. Use AOE ffs!

[KarlA75]

Originally Posted by st4nth3m4n They dont suck, you suck! Demos are supposed to be out of reach of any soldiers. What you are doing wrong is that you are toe to toe dueling or getting jumped. get a group, pvp against another group. Use AOE ffs!

cant group all the time, sometimes you are alone friend.. but as a Havoc Demo i can survive better in PvP..

[Millenium]

i'm demo from first day of this game, and what i can tell that if u are conflag u do more damage but u cant survive morethan 10sec in group pvp at the time, if u are havoc u do litle smaler amount o damage but can survive much more time even until end of batle (ty to more cc)

i star to use my demo as suport in pvp, cuz damage we do suck agains all other clases... try to make hybrid build u will get all cc abilities and team will be very hapy that u are whit them

nad for that guy that tells to use aoe:

man go play whit you melee guy, you dont understant what u are talking about. pls dont post here anymore.

[st4nth3m4n]

Originally Posted by Millenium i'm demo from first day of this game, and what i can tell that if u are conflag u do more damage but u cant survive morethan 10sec in group pvp at the time, if u are havoc u do litle smaler amount o damage but can survive much more time even until end of batle (ty to more cc) i star to use my demo as suport in pvp, cuz damage we do suck agains all other clases... try to make hybrid build u will get all cc abilities and team will be very hapy that u are whit them nad for that guy that tells to use aoe: man go play whit you melee guy, you dont understant what u are talking about. pls dont post here anymore.

So, while you think its important to CC a guy and use single target Havoc spells, im there destroying a whole group doing 500+ damage/sec in a 10m area.
Providing my team with the BEST possible Buffs.

You tell me I dont know? hahahah, you should be punished for bringing youre openions to these boards.

pls?? Please is what you ask your lady when youre lying next to her in bed. Dont give me this crap, actually dont give it to anyone. I would never consider ever bringing you into my group.

[chilipeppersc]

Originally Posted by st4nth3m4n So, while you think its important to CC a guy and use single target Havoc spells, im there destroying a whole group doing 500+ damage/sec in a 10m area. .

AOE spells take around 3 seconds to cast, and then there are wayyyy too many LOS issues to compramise with. You cant aoe down, or up, or across, or behind a pebble.... and 500 damage to each person in 3 seconds is almost poor in my oppinion. On testlive when your against a group with 2x healers, the damage is more of a small nuisance, not quite the all powerful aoe you would have thought from the main AOE/DPS class in the game (from the description). The burst DPS of single target FOG is awesome however, and in comparisoon the aoe if against a group with lots of un-cc'd healers is low damage
Yes our buffs are pretty useful, but our hp is still too lwo compared to other classes. And to be honest, an AOE damage margin of over 100% is extreme. 400-800.....that 800 is mroe of a crit, and AOE's hardly ever crit, so you are generally hitting 450-550 (on testlive). Our aoe does need a damage margin reduction, giving it a higher overall dps ration than 500 for 3 seconds...makes FOG and instant casts much more efficient than what SHOULD be our best group dps form.