[DarkovTFC]

Okay, this is stupid Funcom. If people were specing up to Shattering Stance then using Bows I can understand how it would be over powered, so instead of making it TOTALLY USELESS, why didn't you just make it only work with CROSSBOWS!

I fire one shot for every three of a bow user, I NEED this to solo PvE, my damage per shot isn't three times that of a bow user, I rely on being able to knockback to get off my shots to kill the mob before it kills me.

Fix this, having it so it knocks back once every hour isn't good enough.

[auser]

Originally Posted by DarkovTFC Okay, this is stupid Funcom. If people were specing up to Shattering Stance then using Bows I can understand how it would be over powered, so instead of making it TOTALLY USELESS, why didn't you just make it only work with CROSSBOWS!

you do not understand.

if you do that ranger becomes also a uninteresting class. bows allone won't help you much and x-bow are so damn boring.

sadly shatter-stance is not nice to have it is a must have! otherwise on higher levels evry braindead moron can kill you easily. dont't judge from low level perspective!

[DarkovTFC]

Not just PvP, this has had a major impact on PvE too, the class is seriously broken now. Maybe they can have seperate percentages for Xbow and Bow, I don't know, all I know is that it doesn't go off anywhere near enough now and as a Xbow user I can't survive most fights at 47 solo because of this.

[hrabe-dracula]

I am level 47 ranger and I can beat one LVL 50 mob easily :-D but I have big problem with 2 - 3 mobs on my LVL ... its nearly impossible.

[frbbls]

Wow, talking about "cant play my class properly". If you really, really, need to rely on Shattering Stance for soloing/pvp. What the hell have you done when leveling to 29?

And, as for getting 3 bowshots in for every xbowshot, your plain wrong. Do the math.
Bow > 1,98s
Xbow > 2,98s

3 bowshots is approx. 2s*3 = 6 seconds.
2 xbowshots is approx. 3s*2 = 6 seconds.

And, the xbow does mostly do 2 times or more then a bow, making it in my eyes better even if your firing slower. It's not a friggin machinegun. It's more of a .50 sniper rifle. (Minus the range haha)

Still when taking on 3 mobs there is a combo called "Piercing Shot" with the maxed Scatter Shots feat gives you a cone-like hard-hitting combo.

Geez... Sorry if i sound rude or anything. But this is just ridiculous.

[auser]

Originally Posted by frbbls Wow, talking about "cant play my class properly". If you really, really, need to rely on Shattering Stance for soloing/pvp. What the hell have you done when leveling to 29?

what's your level?
wanna see how you get to 80 when you have more than one foe on you where they hit you for 300-500 eache and you ahve only 2000 hp and can du nothing to get away and still being able do do dmg.

[DarkovTFC]

So it was a slight exageration, I can still take two mobs when potting, point is, Shattering Stance no longer does knockbacks, which is a major nerf.

As you get higher in level the mobs do significantly more damage that medium armor just can't mitigate any longer.

And frbbls, you forget about Salvo, which Xbow users can use and Piercing shot isn't that good in comparison.

[frbbls]

Originally Posted by auser what's your level? wanna see how you get to 80 when you have more than one foe on you where they hit you for 300-500 eache and you ahve only 2000 hp and can du nothing to get away and still being able do do dmg.

I am level 43, im just stating what i notice in my game. I have over 2000 hp, and the mobs im facing never do 300-500 damage. Maybe if it's three of them together.
But that's the friggin' point, your not a real ranger if you wouldnt utilize all the abilties they have given you! You have a leghold trap (and i admit, it doesnt always work quite that well), you have Pin Down, you have Incapacitating Stabs and with one only feat point it gives Knockback. These can be used to run away from the target giving you time to get a combo in.
Hell i haven't even mentioned potions, you ever use one?! You can hold your ground a period of time longer...

Its just absurd to render a Ranger USELESS in pve when he doesnt have Shattering Stance proccing like mad. Really, go reroll a barb if you want Knockback.

Originally Posted by DarkovTFC So it was a slight exageration, I can still take two mobs when potting, point is, Shattering Stance no longer does knockbacks, which is a major nerf. As you get higher in level the mobs do significantly more damage that medium armor just can't mitigate any longer. And frbbls, you forget about Salvo, which Xbow users can use and Piercing shot isn't that good in comparison.

I notice how i can't handle the things i could when i was lower level. But still, its about picking the right targets and be ready for additional pulls. And Salvo & Xbow? Since when is that? If you use a bow, you get Salvo, if using an xbow your getting Piercing Shot.
And Salvo is bugged as hell, hitting for less (at least for me) what Piercing Shot does, plus Piercing Shots can damage multiple mobs at a time!
Have both Piercing Shot I and II next to eachother, and with me they dont share cooldown which means you get 2 cone-like shots.

Still.. After this, i really think Shattering Stance is useless now, but im not saying it ruined the entire class. Im still able to chrush other players and mobs of higher level. It takes more time and thinking instead of just relying on an insane high proc. Takes the skill out of the game if you ask me.

[Marke]

Originally Posted by frbbls I am level 43, im just stating what i notice in my game. I have over 2000 hp, and the mobs im facing never do 300-500 damage. Maybe if it's three of them together. But that's the friggin' point, your not a real ranger if you wouldnt utilize all the abilties they have given you! You have a leghold trap (and i admit, it doesnt always work quite that well), you have Pin Down, you have Incapacitating Stabs and with one only feat point it gives Knockback. These can be used to run away from the target giving you time to get a combo in. Hell i haven't even mentioned potions, you ever use one?! You can hold your ground a period of time longer... Its just absurd to render a Ranger USELESS in pve when he doesnt have Shattering Stance proccing like mad. Really, go reroll a barb if you want Knockback. I notice how i can't handle the things i could when i was lower level. But still, its about picking the right targets and be ready for additional pulls. And Salvo & Xbow? Since when is that? If you use a bow, you get Salvo, if using an xbow your getting Piercing Shot. And Salvo is bugged as hell, hitting for less (at least for me) what Piercing Shot does, plus Piercing Shots can damage multiple mobs at a time! Have both Piercing Shot I and II next to eachother, and with me they dont share cooldown which means you get 2 cone-like shots. Still.. After this, i really think Shattering Stance is useless now, but im not saying it ruined the entire class. Im still able to chrush other players and mobs of higher level. It takes more time and thinking instead of just relying on an insane high proc. Takes the skill out of the game if you ask me.

The question is why as Ranger u have to use more "skill" to beat mobs up 1 at the time, when most other classes can aoe easy many at the same time we have problem with 1 or 2 of those.

[frbbls]

Ive read this brilliant comment in another thread on the ranger forums.

Freely quoted;
"Some classes are for pvp and some classes are for pve."

Not saying this and this class can only do pvp or pve, but excels at one of the areas. Now im sure we all agree that Rangers do massive damage to clothers, 1 or 2 shotting them with combos. I saw this ToS running into 4 mobs of his level, blasted them to death with AoE and healing himself with a hot. While all the time i was trying to kill 2 wolves, he managed to kill 8 in the same time span.

But if we were to face eachother, i'd pummel him all around the map. It's just that easy. Rangers have a harder time leveling, but in endgame i reckon the rewards are really greater. If you want to breeze through mobs go play a ToS. Really, they are insane.

And if you want to grind, go make friends with someone else, and grind together. It's much more enjoyable, goes WAY faster, and your less likely to be ambushed by the odd Assassin.