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Old 19th May 2008, 23:04     Sttring is offline   #11
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/agreed

Just takes a while to get used to and learn, but i love it so far lvl 23. Remeber use your rouge abilities there a big help.
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Old 19th May 2008, 23:38     kayahaze3 is offline   #12
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I disagree. As it is now, 70% of our combat is close-up. That is ridiculous. We need more range, and some aoe on our bow skills.
Agree more range please.
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Old 20th May 2008, 00:25     Exiled-Lurikeen is offline   #13
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Imo the range seems to be fine (after the 5/5 skill) takes a bit of getting used to, but normally can get the mobs down to 1/3 maybe 1/2 I miss or get blocked or heavy armour, then its just a simple melee a few times etc.
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Old 20th May 2008, 06:20     Saknaraust is offline   #14
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But making some functionality that would auto switch between combo pages when you switch weapons would be totally awesome.

Not that I can't handle pressing shift+r / shift+2 in a decently short amount of time but it would still be awesome!
Oh, and a in-range / out-of-range indicator.

But that's just fluff really. I love the class as it is.
Make "r" the change weapons hotkey, works VERY good.
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Old 20th May 2008, 12:31     fuzbaul is offline   #15
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Remember that its all about balance - if you compare to a ranged magic user, we have much more survivability - better armour, more melee attacks and trap.

If we could kill stuff without it ever reaching us, there would be no risk involved, no skill required and would be kinda dull - things that any MMORPG needs to try to avoid.

Although I do agree the UI elements need tweaking - at 16 - I don't have many issues taking mobs down
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Old 21st May 2008, 03:00     laika is offline   #16
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Well hope they dont change the range for bow to mutch, I know about the hawkeye class in L2. because they are so powerfull with the bow every1 in the game is an hawkeye. When the ranger got to powerfull with bow then i tink 50% of peeps will be a ranger. I see a ranger class also more as a survyor and tracker. So he can spot for other classes etc, can lay traps etc. This is what i,m hoping for i can do with a ranger toon. But i will see.

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Old 21st May 2008, 05:21     Ordric is offline   #17
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Well, I'm currently lvl 30 and all I can complain about so far is (if it's worth a complaint):

-increase default range by at least 5m
guess needs no discussion here

-reevaluate casting time on ranged combos
some just seem to be too long

-switching hotbars and weapon set with one button
can do it with g15 though - and also every other class could benefit from that

-fix salvo
salvo shoots 3? arrows - if your target should die with the first arrow, it keeps hitting you until all 3 arrows have been fired - doesn't apply to fatality

-itemization
we can wear medium armor but almost every single piece of medium armor found so far is for tanking +taunt +hate modifier isn't good for us
at level 30 I still wear the lvl 10 medium armor I bought in tortage, wear the legs from tortage, almost everything I wear is from tortage
Itemization is really really bad after tortage

-the chat
not really a ranger only issue but the chat is fubar


gameplay:

-pve
when I get the opener the mob usually bites the dust before it reaches me
if I pull 2 or more mobs it depends if I can pull the second target into my trap, but usually it's melee time after the first mob
dmg from my point of view is fine
we got a ranged snare and I'm pretty sure more cc ranged combos in higher lvls

-pvp
can't tell much about that
got some world pvp kills, without serious problems unless I got jumped while I was on some mobs

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Old 21st May 2008, 08:22     orgzzz is offline   #18
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The only way for the dev team to get the game in balance is to make the ranger a semi mele class, with lower range. iv played my share of pvp mmopgs and no i didnt play wow but every game iv played range is important, And very hard to balance. So if they give rangers more range, they nede to beat you with the nerfstick on something else, think about that before you "whine" about range. I agree that 25meters is a bit to short, but the game is made as a closeup pvp and not a sneak_around_one_shot_ppl. If you want that go play COD or osmething. its balance, and its needed, its not even released yet, they wil be balancing the classes in 2 month and more, so whatever classs you choose make one you Want to play, not the on with highest dps.
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Old 21st May 2008, 11:11     Robota is offline   #19
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I guess everyone would like to have 100 yards range, instant combos and so on. Of course only for oneself, otherwise, where would the advantage be?

Ok, on a serious note: range is fine if you consider it's implications on PvP. If you could kill your opponents befor they can reach you - that would call for the nerf bat.
And we do hit hard enough in melee to make it ok to have not unlimited range.

I don't know how you are currently playing, but I'm mostly running around in a team and there you can stay ranged as much as you want. So if you want to play a real ranger, go team up.

There are definitively some issues:
  • no in range indication as other classes have
  • bar and weapon switching needs improvement as this is something you need to do in every single solo fight - no other class has this
  • weapon slots need a rethinking for rangers - other classes need one set and can use two situational sets by switch between situational weapon choices like PvE/PvP or single mob/multi mob fights. Rangers need both sets, one set for Ranged and one for Melee and so can't have situational weapon choice except by totally re-equipping - not viable infight and taking up to much bag space anyhow.
  • casting time of combos is in teams to long. A lot of mobs are already down by the time the combos start to go off
  • Targeting in multimob situations in teams could use improvement.

But I'm already pretty happy with them as they are. Well, of course up to level 30 - that's where I am at the moment.
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Old 22nd May 2008, 03:48     TerjeOne is offline   #20
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After lvl 20 all you get is allmost only archer skills so I see no need to change. With knee caping feat, mezz shot, maybe root trap and snare it aint a big issue.

The class is fine as it is, I think.
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