[noya]

Originally Posted by Paddi88 Are you kidding me? Curently it looks like this The medium armor and lack of deadzone makes the ranger class have pretty much no glaring weaknesses, cause even if your opponent manages to get within range on you, they most likely are below 30% hp already~ meaning you can just tank their dmg while finishing them off.

No, when you get to higher levels mobs (and players) will knock-back and stun you in melee range. Knock-backs and stuns seriously **** up rangers.

And even with the rogue tree immunity most classes will work around it to stun/knock-back easily if they have a clue.

[Hartassen]

Uhm my lvl 11 guardian took out a lvl 19 ranger in underhalls. At lvl 22 I killed a lvl 23 ranger again. At lvl 33 a lvl 32 ranger jumped me and got owned aswell. Forgot to say at lvl 18 or so a lvl 20 ranger kept owning me like 3 times, anyways...

Defensive stance + enduring defense maneuveur = the ****, once you realise ur not gonna do **** dmg to me you start running and jumping and I go into frenzy and pwn your little faces and when you realise im in frenzy I switch back to defensive.


Funny thing is I rolled a ranger now on twilight after I realised how broken open pvp is.

[kayahaze3]

Originally Posted by pferguson08 1.Jump around and kite? You cant fire unless your standing till (hell vs melee chars). 2.Track...half the time it doesnt work...and pretty pointless. 3.Medium armor makes little to no diffrence in defence ratings. 4.Mezz shot, it breaks on damage..100% of the time. 5.Rangers have to pick their battles were a ranged class, with limited melee ability we couldnt face you toe to toe. Yes I will admit we do have good DPS in that level range, but apprently we dont scale to well either and there is a nerf coming (i think).

/agree
Lvl59 and no longer use melee.
Also Rangers have just had shattering stance nerfed.
At Thundering River i watch other classes same lvl as me taking on 3x62 without braking sweat, Ranger struggles with that. Fire trap is poor, pitch pots broke. Also a big difference the past 2 lvls Stamina vanishes grinding the cistern the past 2 days in a great grp but need to use stamina pots or stand and not use combos.

Remember Rangers are for End Game Seiges nerf to much and u would be as well using rubber arrows.

Also i have been recording all game environmental Damage and we are not the ones needing nerfed.

Please could a Mod restrict the Forum to Class only.

[eksemgutten2]

Originally Posted by Hartassen Uhm my lvl 11 guardian took out a lvl 19 ranger in underhalls. At lvl 22 I killed a lvl 23 ranger again. At lvl 33 a lvl 32 ranger jumped me and got owned aswell. Forgot to say at lvl 18 or so a lvl 20 ranger kept owning me like 3 times, anyways... Defensive stance + enduring defense maneuveur = the ****, once you realise ur not gonna do **** dmg to me you start running and jumping and I go into frenzy and pwn your little faces and when you realise im in frenzy I switch back to defensive. Funny thing is I rolled a ranger now on twilight after I realised how broken open pvp is.

at lvl 18 i hit a ranger for 33dmg with my most powerfull nukes, he critted me for 788, 1shotted, at lvl 50 i met another ranger, i walked into hes trap, i then got 2shotted by piercing shot + salvo or something (he did about 1500 and 1700dmg)

[yumdyen]

as a ranger I could agree that we are a very high dps class, combind with rather good CC and good surviving capabilites if you know how to play your class. What I think is that we should not get nerfed. Other classes should recive uppgrade as they are doing with the necros and demo.

I played some CTF games with our guild. Manage to get a big kill score by staying out of the way of the heavy melee and killing soft targets (we won those games more to the fact of our healer then me )
but to the point. When I faced the melee it hurt alot..

I myself using the bow feats, gives me the leghold trap (always in reserve oh I need to run) and pin down + mezz shot as CC skills. (ok yes I can switch to melee and bring out a snare and a root but as I am still a 50 noob ranger I am still in training )

Against soldier class who charge knockback and stun I go down unless I can manage to start run and pull my legtrap. The mezz shot works only when I am hidden which is a good way to start to take out 1 class but not workable in pvp (try to hide in the middle of a 1 vs 1 in melee range.

Against healers its damn silly.. throws huge load of dmg only to see it healed up. using knockback xbow would be better I think but I play with what I like and make it work not doing the FOTM spec.

Casters is easy prey, I dont know how it will be on the later lvls (beeing only 50) but unless they jump on me and I am busy killing otherthings I ususaly take them down.


ok conclusion, dont think its time to bring out the nerf hammer yet for rangers. I think there needs more high end fighting before we can say clearly that our dmg is too high.

[kayahaze3]

Apparently from Lv60-70 our dammage increase starts to slow.

[Kingmunx]

Originally Posted by Apollyn781 Its been posted before: Soldiers -beat-> Rogues -Beat-> Casters -Beat-> Healers -Beat-> Soldiers Not perfect but kinda works. Shades of grey are available

caster beats healers ? what you been smoking, healers outheal any nuke from a caster lol

[Mikkeman]

I cant understand, these whining threads just continue. Nerfs will come and they will be done to improve balance. But people crying when they get killed by X class is just plain stupid. These threads should be limited to the specific sticky class forums. If you think your class is to weak on some department just post it there. Do not come here and whine, oooh he killed me. He is way too overpowered.

I play a ranger and we are quite well balanced. We can dish out decent damage, but normally I will only win a pvp battle against same level, if I get the iniatiative. Otherwise I have to retreat and come back when the odds are on my side. In close combat most of the time I get my ass kicked, as it should be. To more high level you get you see that rangers melee abilities become less magnificent. And this too has been said many many times in these forums.

So please do not whine about overpowered classes here. Game is new and it will change. Live with it for a while, then make your judgement. And think before you yell that jugdement to the public.

[Dermon]

Who let the idiots from wow in our game, ahh Blizzard kicked 500 000 whiners and cheaters out latelly

You don't have a glue how to play your own toon , you start crying and whining.

Nerf classes to make all the same in 1 v 1 pvp, that was the most stupid thing in wow but hey the game lagged content thus it become a arena game finally.

Nerf because of pvp and the pve part of the game is gonna suffer, not all classes are supposed to be able to own every other class imho.

Go and whine in teamfortress forums, there is no class balance there,
And it's just fine...learn team work some day soon please

[Rojoel]

Well I see most other classes taking on 2 or 3 mobs of there own level, while leveling at lvl 60 plus.

Rangers have a hard time in doing this, so nerfing us isn't the answer to this problem, if in fact there is one in the first place. As all I see here is some one posting a general I got killed by X Y class with no real substance behind it, Which is an just an empty cry for a nerf.

As has been said, if anything the other classes need to be tweaked and balanced first, and of course we haven't had any time at end game level as of yet.

And these people that are calling for a dead zone, sorry but Blizzard admitted themselves that it wasn't to nerf the hunters in WOW. It was in fact them being lazy when creating the class, it took them over two years to fix it however.