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Old 4th June 2008, 10:11     Bloodcrave is offline   #51
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you are totaly blind.
OR it doesnt happen


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it is only their. after level 35 you are lost as ranger.
I given up on my ranger at lvl 32, simply because its what everyone plays for EZ mode pvp while leveling and its overplayed and missrepresented class in the game (just like rogues in WoW) it is lvl 33 and I kill lvl 40s of all classes with relative ease, and I dont see any lvl 40+ranger having a hard time perhaps you are doing something wrong.


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i get out of endurence before the any soldier class lost 50% of their hp.

highly and highly unlikely, rogue archtypes have better endurance related boosts, you run faster and sprint longer than soldiers and your stamina requirments on combas are also lower than a conqs at least, perhaps you arnt taking full advantage of your several knockback/snare/root aswell as superior stealth to preserve your stamina (in case you dont know stamina isnt just a melee manapool, it is there to make kiting mechanics harder and therefor you must learn them)
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Old 4th June 2008, 10:17     tuaren123 is offline   #52
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I just ganked 2 rangers as a ranger myself.

One of them was 3, other one was one level higher than me.

Still, a group of 2.. I got the jump on them but, come on? BUFF RANGURLS!! Or wait.. Nerf rangers? As I just killed a couple chaps as one :O

Which will it be? Buff or nerf? Or are we perhaps balanced and this game also has somekind of a "skill" based PVP system, that relies on pressing buttons in the right order and at the right time.. Like those dance, dance revolution games?

So, think those two will come around asking for nerfs for ranger class, only because they got killed by one? Even as they are rangers themselves, and if we are op, would have killed me in a blink of an eye.

No, they will most likely just think "That guy was better than us, we need to get better ourselves."

So it was purely based on who has understood more of the game. They have most likely played as a duo all the time, as they were both guildies and seemed quite close to each other...

That makes em a bit "dumber" on survival, as they have grown to have someone backing them up all the time.

But as I mezzed the higher one and killed the lower chap, the higher one paniced and ****ed up his combos. He most likely hasn't gone against 100%hp targets that many times before, but as I have played alone most of the time, I knew all about lossing, outranging and stuff like that. He just didn't, like most of the nerfcallers here..

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THERE ARE OBJECTS AROUND THE WORLD THAT MAKE RANGED WEAPONS AND CASTING OBSOLETE.

GO BEHIND THEM AND REST IF YOU ARE MELEE, LOW ON HEALTH OR SEE A COMBO COMING YOUR WAY.

ALSO USE THE DIRECTIONAL SHIELDS TO LOWER YOUR OPPONENTS DAMAGE OUTPUT.

THANK YOU.
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Caps seems to get through easier to people who can't play.. So sorry about that if there's someone reading this who actually knows his way around, I apologise.


So, it was purely a "skill" based fight, like most of the fights in this game are.

There is no need to buff nor nerf rangers, just a dire need to fix them. Almost all of our feats either don't work or just don't scale at all, so there really isn't any other point to spec than to get a stance for 30% damage multiplier.


So, in conclusion. People who call for nerfs simply can't play at all, they still think that this game has something to do with WoW for some reason as well.

We are not hunters, we don't have pets, we don't have stings/arcane shot while running and we definitely don't need a deadzone because all of those reasons I just stated in this same sentence.

Even a 1-2meter deadzone would break this class in the current situation.

Maybe if we could use Pin Down and Stealty while running, it could be a good idea to implement somekind of a small deadzone.. But you chaps gotta remember that WoW deadzone was a BUG that was fixed after 2 years from release..

So yeah, it surely is a good idea to implement something considered as a bug before fixing all the feats, stats and skills that don't change your character at all :P
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Old 4th June 2008, 14:15     Kingmunx is offline   #53
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The rangerclass is the best in the game at the moment. None reach nor kill it. A nice Deadzone would balance out the class and force them to stay ranged as the class supposed to. Its kinda stupid when a ranger can shoot arrows when you are nose to nose...
Another Person who dosnt have a clue what hes talking about, Rangers arnt even close to OP, yes theyr strong at lower lvls, but theyr average at higher lvls.
IF you want a Overpowered class nerfed how about you cry about ToS, Guardian, or PoM ?
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Old 4th June 2008, 14:20     Norsixa is offline   #54
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Ah yes. A pom.. Got good stories about those. A lvl 46, which was 3 levels lower than me, doing the same quest as me. He was a guildie and such. He went into the haunted forest.. Hard for me to kill anything there seeing as they agro with 3-4-5 sometimes. The pom just took whatever came, up to 5 mobs + boss, aoe knockbacked them, shooting them on half hp , and doign that untill they die, took him 3-4 shots of that? Hmm. Couldn't even help him at all, he killed fast enough, nice boosting by a lower level if you ask me
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Old 4th June 2008, 15:54     Quirk is offline   #55
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I am suggesting some balance issue, not to destroy the world...
In my eyes that would just ruin ranged combat for rangers, considoring every attack has to be pressed, and has a cast time, including the fact that kiting is alot harder to do, but do-able.
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Old 4th June 2008, 16:33     kjeksomanen is offline   #56
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No waii. This idea is shitty.
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Old 4th June 2008, 16:51     auser is offline   #57
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In my eyes that would just ruin ranged combat for rangers, considoring every attack has to be pressed, and has a cast time, including the fact that kiting is alot harder to do, but do-able.
please share your knowledge and tell me how to kite in aoc. well beside using trap evry 60 sec.
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Old 4th June 2008, 23:07     klockradio is offline   #58
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Go die in a fire please. You obviously never played hunter in wow.. I dont want something as shitty as a DZ again.
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Old 5th June 2008, 09:30     s3pp0 is offline   #59
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"play to lvl 40+", yeah and what happens then? Rangers kill everything else than guardians at those lvls.... should we buff rangers so that they can kill guardians too? Ranger=easy mode
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Old 5th June 2008, 09:30     Emperatus is offline   #60
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Ok, lets make it realistic for rangers. We have a 5 yard deadzone, in return we one or two shot everything just like a real life archer would.


Wrong! :O Your facts are ridiculously miss placed. Boromir ate up -three- arrows in Lord of the Rings before he diedededed. Therefor it's only natural that guardians, dark templar, and conquerors should die instantly after 3 arrows.

As for squishies, one arrow should be enough. Rangers -need- to work exactly like archers in reallife because that's what we want, a game where 99% of the players play rangers because of their obsenely high damage.


Aaah damn it all!!! I forgot to turn /sarcasm off =/

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