[prugalo]

Would love to see buyable t1/t2 weapons. Been raiding with my current char since january i think, now its august and i still don't have any raid weapon. My only other option is to buy ibis, which will take another year or more to get enough money to buy it. I play with a conq and have a complete epic tiger and wolf set, but sadly only a rare weak weapon. Some of us just aren't that lucky.

[Cathaona]

Good idea to make T1 (and t2) raid weapon purchaseable - but the prizing suggested at first post is just too low.

[borystakieimie]

Originally Posted by meode weapons are an ultimate goal something to play for that's why they only drop from end bosses, if you make them buyable it removes the goal from completing the raid instances.

I thought that we are playing for fun not for gear...

Originally Posted by meode How is that fair for the rest of the community who have put the hours in to get their raid weapons??

should grind/hours of gametime decide about rewards over well known tactics and skill? You just dont want to give rewards for players who finished lets say 10 times brc and they know tactic really well only because you had to do it more times? They wont grind T2 over and over because it will be boring for them.

[meode]

Originally Posted by borystakieimie I thought that we are playing for fun not for gear...

Everyone plays for different reasons, I play for the achievement and the challenge.

Originally Posted by borystakieimie should grind/hours of gametime decide about rewards over well known tactics and skill? You just dont want to give rewards for players who finished lets say 10 times brc and they know tactic really well only because you had to do it more times?

why should players who dont put in the effort get the easy life?

Originally Posted by borystakieimie They wont grind T2 over and over because it will be boring for them.

every player grinds the same thing over and over, whether it's T2, T3, T4, Khitai or a new char it's the same thing, it's what you make of it if you can make it enjoyable along the way it's never boring.

[Unbeliever77]

Thanks, guys, for all you opinions thus far. Please keep posting them.

I admit that my original suggested prices might have been a bit low but even making the T1/T2 weapons purchasable for 3 or 5 times the price of the respective chest piece would be great.

A bit funny to see that especially HoXes seem to be against the idea, taking into account that their best weapon (pre-T4), the Trial of Flame, does not drop at random but can be bought for Rares...

[borystakieimie]

Originally Posted by meode Everyone plays for different reasons, I play for the achievement and the challenge.

Is it really a challenge to clean BRC 100 x times? Maybe mental challenge just like digging at bori

Originally Posted by meode why should players who dont put in the effort get the easy life?

If someone has finished raid more than several times I think he actually put the effort.. Playing same instance hundred of times is a bit korean style

Originally Posted by meode every player grinds the same thing over and over, whether it's T2, T3, T4, Khitai or a new char it's the same thing, it's what you make of it if you can make it enjoyable along the way it's never boring.

My point is that you would rather pass on T1 and T2 raids because you will get better gear much faster in T3, T3,5 or T4 not mentioning khitai groups or solo questing in khitai. Imo T1 and T2 should be very casual raids(with average gear as a reward), where you can get your gear quite fast even if you dont pve much. Nowadays fresh 80 will be rather doing khitai quests for weapon than playing T1 or T2.

[meode]

Originally Posted by Unbeliever77 A bit funny to see that especially HoXes seem to be against the idea, taking into account that their best weapon (pre-T4), the Trial of Flame, does not drop at random but can be bought for Rares...

there are better weapons for every class pre T4 that can be bought.

[Naerri]

Originally Posted by Unbeliever77 A bit funny to see that especially HoXes seem to be against the idea, taking into account that their best weapon (pre-T4), the Trial of Flame, does not drop at random but can be bought for Rares...

You know...HoXes can have have alts too You can hardly see me on my main toon nowadays...

[Evito]

In split completely between hox and sin. The hox is just cooler and more fun. And also, I don't really like the trial of flame and rarely use it, and no i don't have t4. My fav weapon did indeed drop

[tyrusaran]

i think its a good idea to make T1/T2 weaps purchasable with relics.

T1/T2 weaps are NOT end-game gear, and as such can easily be put on the vendors list. mind you, the price will have to be fine tweaked in order for the aquisition curve to be just right.