[Frezard]

Originally Posted by stage He has posted several times topics on PvP on his blog in the past years, last one being this one: http://usuallyfine.blogspot.com/2012...vp-debate.html

Yea.... Kinda hard to find his blog when I'm not following him, Stage. Looking only at AoC forums were all the information should be.

Thanks for all the response @Sil.

[borystakieimie]

@Silirrion
Why not give unique rewards for playing premade minigames? I believe its possible to avoid farming it. In example you could give a little chance for looting pvp epics (comparable to t3-t4 pve) items while playing premades vs other guild (to avoid farming with alt guilds guild must have renown 15+ or even 20). You have looting system added already for minigames, it is just needed to add need/greed/pass system for epics(this system is also present in game). It seems quite simple for me and because its looting from dead players & only little chance for getting a loot-noone will farm it. It would give more motivation to play premades& shorten a gap in pvp (ppl will use T4 weapons in near future while pvp weapons sucks
What do you think about it? You have already systems needed for it, so it should be very easy, fast and cheap to develop I suppose and could be really nice target for many players (including pvp veterans who are bored with pug minis and have nothing else to do= they often quit).

[ijianlin]

Originally Posted by Silirrion Possible yes, but that would then be at the expense of PvE content and we have to provide both.

What you are saing is that you have to provide both pvp and pve content and in last 4 years you added ony one mini game and bori pv p wise now in pve you have added ymirs pass, xibaluku, slauter house, house of crom, huge outdoor quests in field of the dead, raids (t3, t3.5, t4), common district, iron tower, turan, khitai, sotial clothing and dont forget incoming crafting revamp, new adventure pack, dungeons revamp with hm (breach,Forgoten city, dead mans). In pvp you havent been able to fix in more thatn 5 months a simple but game breaking bug like win/loose stat. and what we are awaiting in pvp is one minimap whith adventure pack nice ballance. yeap its like you say you have to provide both.

[ijianlin]

Originally Posted by Silirrion That we do try and do. Last year of course it didn't happen due to the work on the business model change. This year it will happen, and hopefully those beyond as well!

Graig you add 1 map per 4 years. The changes of bussiness model was 1 year you should have added 3 maps if you want as to believe your excuse.

[nedbee]

Originally Posted by Kurt777 Again, you should work on the alignment, consequence or faction system.

We already had Twilight server... I started my AoC journey out there but it became ghost time quite quickly while all PVP-er were on other PVP servers. You're asking for something that already was and most PVP-ers were not interested in.

You see I see most PVPers in this game like this: shout a lot and do nothin.

[borystakieimie]

Rage server was a fail because grind mechanics were the same - to progress fast you had to do a lot of pve - thats why ppl left. It was as much pve focused game as on the other servers (why they didnt enable full aa for pvp there?)

[K4nnyc]

Originally Posted by Xeleb We already had Twilight server... I started my AoC journey out there but it became ghost time quite quickly while all PVP-er were on other PVP servers. You're asking for something that already was and most PVP-ers were not interested in. You see I see most PVPers in this game like this: shout a lot and do nothin.

Thats not what he means.

Open world PvP needs factions. Fact.
Open world PvP needs hardcore consequence system or it fails hard like AOC has. Fact.
Minigames need spliting between levels or something similar to seperate bori queens from newbies. Fact.

Alignment in this case means Good>neutral>Evil.

Hardcore consequence is> fighting in wilderness away from guards = no bad rep, anything goes have fun, do it if you can get away with it!

Ganking in sight of guards gives bad rep points, going over a certain threshold means you become evil and get instant guard agro and death on sight by guards.

A outlaw city built on top of the bori fiasco where outlaws congregate and hero's hunt them down, the new "kesh oasis pvp point". This is self regulating pvp system where your actions have a cause and effect.

Throw in 20 or so good/neutral/evil pvp quests and you are gold.

All written in a hurry on scrap of paper in a chip shop, but better than anything FC have come up with in 4 years.

[Mayn]

Making too many minigames would mean we would have shitloads of minigames and an endless wait for them as people are spread out in the signs ups.. one more minigame maybe.. but more than that and it starts to get bad imo.

So stop asking for many more minigames all the time and show some world pvp love <3

[Azanath1979]

Originally Posted by borystakieimie Rage server was a fail because grind mechanics were the same - to progress fast you had to do a lot of pve - thats why ppl left. It was as much pve focused game as on the other servers (why they didnt enable full aa for pvp there?)

Because than people would have create a char there leveled to 30 used Offline levels maxed AA and transfered back to the original server they intented to stay anyway like Crom or Fury

[noite80]

Originally Posted by Mayn Making too many minigames would mean we would have shitloads of minigames and an endless wait for them as people are spread out in the signs ups.. one more minigame maybe.. but more than that and it starts to get bad imo. So stop asking for many more minigames all the time and show some world pvp love <3

spot on gathord couldnt agree more