[Jovana]

+1 Sil for answering all this community questions thats really a big +

About K/D score i personally have nothing against it being visible to other players but that being said i do have a LOT of friends who dont want their scores to be visible to others and also K/D score tends to make some players ''reluctant'' in fighting against stronger more dominating enemy.

As for duo sign ups i think that would be great idea! Becouse we need compromise, ''forcing'' pre-mades against players is wrong.Why? becouse for example Iron Will,Avalon or any other large pro guild can get whole team of pvp 10 players and just join any mini vs randoms and ''farm'' them as players use to say so full ''forced'' pre-mades are big NO!

Also Craig i would like to ask you to consider maybe PvP arenas?
I dont know how and if that can be done but i saw a lot of topics on that subject.If implemented well it can most definetly be fun and refreshing addition to AoC PvP.As for arena i think other more expirienced PvP players then i am can help with some nice ideas

[tafale]

Originally Posted by Radek87 Yes!! Why not pvp adventure pack : ]??

Even as a pure PvE player now I wouldn't mind if this year's adventure pack was replaced with pvp content. Although they could still release two T5 bosses, some new insignificant AA and several new decent pieces to buy in Khitia that wouldn't take all that much time to make.

+1 for the easy fixes in Raxikk's thread.

2. Make an official YG page

3. Achievements for minis that are meaningful (displayed in 2.): "master flag carrier" and "master front warrior" (soaking up a lot of damage) just a few examples to incentivize tanks to carry flags and also something to brag about. Achievements for healing, good cc ratio (e.g. ranger kites and use kb trap and is not triggered, combo CC miss on a conq using +100% evade, just to name a few), etc.

4. Revamp Bori:
Replace rocks with body parts (automatically, god forbid useless loot bags that distracts from fighting), only open 2-3 hours in prime time to "force" conflict and two-three factions. Time restriction is also to provide variety so one can do a few minis before bori and maybe some duels in Khesh afterwards.

5. More content: maps, etc

6. Buff T1 gear a bit, make it lvl 0 and only costing a bit of gold

/not in order of importance though

Stuff like this would at least make me want to do Bori and maybe some minis again.

[Lloyd-mp]

Originally Posted by Silirrion Firstly I think whether stats are motivating is subjective, some players dislike them as much as others like them, so there would have to be another entire discussion there first ...(but might be something we ask in the summer survey)

Solution couldn't be simplier... Just make an option to show or hide player information... just like equipment has. A player that has it enabled, another player can open information about his stats, on the other hand, a guy that wants it private can get it private...

Also, hiding it didn't bring anything good, people still have same way of fighting, and majority care about kdr, to that extend, that alot of players leave before dying (as in, pressing minigame leave at 1-10% hp). I would know all about it, I PvP every day since I installed.

Everyone that claims otherwise is seriously delusional. Also, we can't wait for summer survey etc, time is really critical here, as for too long PvP side of game is WAY TOO CASUAL.

[Misy]

Hello Silirion.

I would say that is very easy fix all the pvp in Aoc:

- Doing a new kind of siege of 12 vs 12 and 24 vs 24. Only is copying code and modificing parameters.

- Use a kind of pvp resource doing very valuable in game, for example the crafting with new recipes.

_ Is posible modify system criminal and Bory around true pvp actions.

- Is posible join or mix all the things Aoc, with sense and motives.

Only is modifying parameters, copying code, really is not new content, only is revamping things that Aoc has now, for example sieges.

Sieges is rare content, you can do sieges an usual content like mini-games, with objetives and if is for less players (less lag, better performance) and more usual content.

I think is not difficult to do.

Camon on, is posible to do with only with two devs, is only modify parameters and copy code, because all that is now in Aoc, only that dont work.

[-Legend-]

This post shows why Sil never comes to the PvP forums, he has nothing to say about it, just a long post that effectively means "we don't care about PvP"

[Silirrion]

Originally Posted by Jovana Also Craig i would like to ask you to consider maybe PvP arenas?

Yes, we really want to do that at some stage. It kind of falls into the same situation as the faction system. There is not a 'quick and easy' way of doing it. If you are going to do it, then you need to do it justice, and it takes a lot of resources to get done. So that's another than will come into the conversation for 2013 for sure when it comes time for us to think about what features we add next.

We'll probably ask you all for your opinions on that type of prioritization as well, when we do the annual summer survey in the near future.

[Misy]

The prety of Aoc in pvp, was the open pvp, the sieges like objetive for a Guild, all that dont work.

With khitai, grinding mode ala Wow. And part of the communty asking about Arenas (like in Wow..cry).

I think all about Wow ruind Aoc, Aoc must be different, Wow destroy all.

Aoc need be him self, no be Wow.

Arenas, new content with a lot of resources, pvp factions, why?

Old things, about Aoc was made, nothing.

Cry

[Silirrion]

Originally Posted by Misy - Doing a new kind of siege of 12 vs 12 and 24 vs 24. Only is copying code and modificing parameters.

That we have considered, but with a possible solution incoming in the new Dreamworld tech, we are holding off until we know whether we can greatly improve that network communication in the backbone.

Originally Posted by Misy - Use a kind of pvp resource doing very valuable in game, for example the crafting with new recipes.

Yes, we are already planning that for the new crafting system.

Originally Posted by Misy _ Is posible modify system criminal and Bory around true pvp actions. - Is posible join or mix all the things Aoc, with sense and motives. Only is modifying parameters, copying code, really is not new content, only is revamping things that Aoc has now, for example sieges.

These are much more vague, and as talked about in my previous replies in my thread, all really hinge on having a solid Faction system of some description, something the original game was not made with. That means it is far from trivial, as discussed in the previous replies.

Originally Posted by Misy Camon on, is posible to do with only with two devs, is only modify parameters and copy code, because all that is now in Aoc, only that dont work.

I really wish that were the case. If it were that simple, and we could wave some magic wand, we would already have done so

The 'give purpose / persistence to outdoor PvP' is a huge, complex, and difficult challenge. We all saw how even the best-intentions type attempts, as with the Shrines, falls foul of those challenges, due to the complications that arise from the game not being faction based.

That is why in the interim we have focused on the instanced mini-game content. It is easier to do, and is more popular with players.

As I said above, I genuinely hope we can make something really awesome with the consensual outdoor parts in the future, and a faction system would be a good place to start there, but one thing it won't be is quick or easy.

[Dualshocker]

@Sil

Have you actually played PVP in AOC before? Not to be rude but there is so much that needs fixing and yet after each patch you add something in PVP is destroyed!

[Misy]

Thank you for answer Sil.

Only i would like say, about sieges of 12 vs 12 or 24 vs 24. That offer that content like more usual and less rare.

Only for the great number of players that is needed for enjoy it.