[Misiuggah]

Originally Posted by Kleoh My guardian currently got 49.9% mitigation and is rather squishy as a tank in HM. I've so far managed to tank vortex and palace HM, but necropolis was a tad hard so I let the real tank deal with the boss. Im working on my AA's, focusing on mostly defence as a start and dps AA's for later.

Eh? Necropolis is probably the easiest tanking job possible. IIRC boss deals heavy electric damage, so your armor is completely irrelevant.

[Kleoh]

Originally Posted by Misiuggah Eh? Necropolis is probably the easiest tanking job possible. IIRC boss deals heavy electric damage, so your armor is completely irrelevant.

Im aware that necropolis do magic damage and I refrained from mentioning my protection value simply because it's not accurate at this point in time. It's currently at 42% but could easily get a tad higher if I switch a few pieces of gear.

Do you have any tips on which faction to grind for gear? Currently I'm rank 2 with wolves. Should I go with wolves for the health and dps or should I get LL for the +hate gear?

Edit: And by hard, I meant it dealt alot of damage. Aggro has been no problem with my S&B build. In fact, sometimes I do keep aggro a bit too well.

[Nolenthar]

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth-VDN i think he's still a bit too squishy for t2...

Well, I've been in T2 raids with full T3/T4 gear and sometimes I was still too squishy, it's a matter of how good your dps and your healing output

For T2 around 50/52% mitigation should be enough for pretty much everything. There is no bosses in T2 where you have to solo tank. So even if you're a bit squishier you're more useful if you can grab aggro easier, even if it means releasing it early.

[Nolenthar]

Originally Posted by Kleoh Do you have any tips on which faction to grind for gear? Currently I'm rank 2 with wolves. Should I go with wolves for the health and dps or should I get LL for the +hate gear?

Depends for what ?

Best for aggro is unarguably LL helm+ chest + legs+ bracers+shoulders and potentially wolves boots and some random gloves.

Now, if you're an HP addict ...

[Misiuggah]

Originally Posted by Kleoh Im aware that necropolis do magic damage and I refrained from mentioning my protection value simply because it's not accurate at this point in time. It's currently at 42% but could easily get a tad higher if I switch a few pieces of gear.

Don't want to derail the thread, but 42% magical mitigation is high enough even for EoY - I've tanked CN boss on carnage conq with 32% magical mitigation.

Heal/dps means a lot, don't overestimate your role.

[Kleoh]

Originally Posted by Misiuggah Don't want to derail the thread, but 42% magical mitigation is high enough even for EoY - I've tanked CN boss on carnage conq with 32% magical mitigation. Heal/dps means a lot, don't overestimate your role.

It's ok mate, I appreciate the tips even if it's a bit offtopic.

I might be overestimating my role, but the other tank did take significantly less damage than me.

From memory I got these stats:
12k health
49.9% mitigation
42% protection
500ish ~ 10-15% critigation

Can it be that I need more critigation?

Originally Posted by Nolenthar Depends for what ? Best for aggro is unarguably LL helm+ chest + legs+ bracers+shoulders and potentially wolves boots and some random gloves.

I thought that polearm spec was depending on dps and therefore wolves would be better. But I do fancy the look of the LL gear and have no problem grinding faction with them instead or perhaps both.

I normally do KK HM's when in guild group, so I guess I need protection. In pug's I do the normal khitai run (flames, vortex, palace HM's)

[Nolenthar]

Originally Posted by Kleoh I thought that polearm spec was depending on dps and therefore wolves would be better. But I do fancy the look of the LL gear and have no problem grinding faction with them instead or perhaps both.

It is, but wolves' dps is not that superior, and even if the poleguard is closer from the DT than a S&B guard, no tank, at the exception maybe of the DT, will exchange crit dmg rating for +hate.

It's true however that you'll have to think as a dps. So make sure you have dps rings, loads of crit rating, crit damage rating, and such, but your +hate still is the most important.

[tafale]

Originally Posted by Kleoh What is your normal tanking rotation with a build like that?

If starting with even shields:
storm strike -> highest two-step FA -> guard -> highest two-step FA -> stagger -> storm strike

Something like that if I remember correctly and I use sword and shield when needed for shield manipulation.

Remember to not spam weapon damage buffs but use one when starting each pull for better initial aggro. STA is OP on trash (but don't use it along with e.g. Volcanic Rage, it's overkill) and when you can solo bosses without risking killing yourself by overaggro (otherwise you need to slack a lot or stop doing combos for others to catch up). Also, remember to switch between provoke and 5% mit one. Generally provoke for trash and grabbing aggro on hard-hitting bosses then switch to 5% mit, especially if you don't have the gear or the other tanks are less skilled (otherwise you would run provoke 24/7).

(since you mentioned that you had too much aggro sometimes)

Originally Posted by Nolenthar That's a solid spec for more than T2 imo. I would however go for a more agressive one. It will of course lower your survivability a bit, but should be more than enough for pretty much everything, and aggro and damage will still be a bit higher. http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...015-21,4013-21

I've a more aggressive build than what I posted since my gear is ok

[Misiuggah]

Originally Posted by Kleoh It's ok mate, I appreciate the tips even if it's a bit offtopic. I might be overestimating my role, but the other tank did take significantly less damage than me. From memory I got these stats: 12k health 49.9% mitigation 42% protection 500ish ~ 10-15% critigation Can it be that I need more critigation?

If that tank had much better stats, then of course he took less damage. Every dps phase I was ending with 4k life, if I would tank it with my DT or Guardian in full tanking gear I wouldn't drop below 90% - but it's not the point. Tanking is a job to do, you don't have to be at 100-90% health all the time (later on it's just impossible).

He does an AoE attack that deals significantly more damage - timing Cunning Deflection means a lot on this encounter if you have weak stats.

What's critigation?


Tempest guardians may have better dps than juggernauts, but they're no DTs or Conqs - they have to rely on +hate gear and skills much more.

[Kleoh]

Originally Posted by Misiuggah What's critigation?

The khitai stats which allows you to avoid being crit by mobs(?)

Lots of good tips, gonna test polearm the minute I get home.