[Haros]

I would like to point up to most OP things, classes, abilities on which funcom should work and change them.

1. Demo - 3 instant casts which do crazy dmg+debuff
I think lowering dmg on this casts would be good

2.Ranger - Ranged class with medium armor,10k HPs and do dmg like sin.
3k-4k crits are normal for this class. And number of their CCs is OP too. U cant even get close to them they kill u so fast.And im not talking how fast they are when running.Look at crom server they should rename it on RANGER Server
Remove their ranged KB+Fear and lower their dmg a bit.

3.DT - Problem with this class is their insane magic dmg and mana burning ability. its really hard to kill it with their dmg but real problem for casters is their mana tap ability. 1vs1 u just dont have a chance to do something.
Lower their magic dmg and remove their mana tap ability(invulabre soul) and repair VOM.

4. Guard-OP dmg with high survibility.
Nerf storm strike and dmg with reckoning after Storm strike.

[Kowx]

VoM is unbalanced, but Mana drain from DT is ok. This game is not for 1v1.

[Lo-DTemplar-ne]

you forgot guardians on your list mate...

And sins
And necros
And barbs
And pom
And ........
But ofc those arent a threat to you so i expect that you see no harm in them.

And wouldnt it be good if dts got a nerf so nothing in this game could counter guards...

There is no issues with dt mana drain (it doesnt even scale and back when introduced it was at least 25%, relatively, stronger then today) and there is no issues with VoM either, except being a mechanic thats makes gameplay silly easy and almost at the level of brute conq and guardian gameplay. Ofc vom should be nerfed but not at the expense of overall burst and dps.

[Blacksoulx]

Originally Posted by Haros I would like to point up to most OP things, classes, abilities on which funcom should work and change them. 1. Demo - 3 instant casts which do crazy dmg+debuff I think lowering dmg on this casts would be good 2.Ranger - Ranged class with medium armor,10k HPs and do dmg like sin. 3k-4k crits are normal for this class. And number of their CCs is OP too. U cant even get close to them they kill u so fast.And im not talking how fast they are when running.Look at crom server they should rename it on RANGER Server Remove their ranged KB+Fear and lower their dmg a bit. 3.DT - Problem with this class is their insane magic dmg and mana burning ability. its really hard to kill it with their dmg but real problem for casters is their mana tap ability. 1vs1 u just dont have a chance to do something. Lower their magic dmg and remove their mana tap ability.

i agree with u but ,..well.. u forgot to put ur main toon -guardian at top of that list.

[Hyen]

Originally Posted by Blacksoulx i agree with u but ,..well.. u forgot to put ur main toon -guardian at top of that list.

With insane stamina tap

I think there is possible to whine about any class and thats excatly what happening every day ^^

[Zaelot]

Every class in the right hands is OP as hell now, which is good, skilled pays off, but when you have some unfair mechanics like ranger can bypass combo system completely now since they are able to spam their entire inta cast combos one after the other, but hey, more annoyingly is guardian and it's insane stam tap+survival+1K per hit crits on counterweight... or killingyourself mid combo from stall the advance,

Or assassin using insane bomb damage after 4 seconds while burning SF's for insta DWW GB etc etc

You could moan and groan about all the classes now. Biggest problem i find is now that BS in medium dont do as much dps, but medium wearing cc machine ranger do more dps because they require no presteps and they're optional.

HfB spam is a pain in the ass too, Chain bubbles from pom...

All classes got insane abilities now. You gotta deal with it or fail in aoc tbh

P.S. Demo Ranger Guardian and VoM are still stupid.

PvP 10 popping you from his exclusive class ability track, and using 1 KB trap + insta combo + insta combo. Sin dead. People wanna complain about sin, but rangers assassinate 10 times better lol

[Haros]

About Bs dmg i cant agree with you. Funcom change bear shaman very good . U can now feat them on dmg(infernal bleed dmg)or on survibility(iron hide).

And objectively pvp 8+ guard with whispering touch do insane dmg with storm strike and reckoning so it deserve nerf too.

[darknessjw]

Originally Posted by Haros I would like to point up to most OP things, classes, abilities on which funcom should work and change them. 1. Demo - 3 instant casts which do crazy dmg+debuff I think lowering dmg on this casts would be good 2.Ranger - Ranged class with medium armor,10k HPs and do dmg like sin. 3k-4k crits are normal for this class. And number of their CCs is OP too. U cant even get close to them they kill u so fast.And im not talking how fast they are when running.Look at crom server they should rename it on RANGER Server Remove their ranged KB+Fear and lower their dmg a bit. 3.DT - Problem with this class is their insane magic dmg and mana burning ability. its really hard to kill it with their dmg but real problem for casters is their mana tap ability. 1vs1 u just dont have a chance to do something. Lower their magic dmg and remove their mana tap ability(invulabre soul) and repair VOM. 4. Guard-OP dmg with high survibility. Nerf storm strike and dmg with reckoning after Storm strike.

Add counterweight to list and we are pretty much back to road where we should be. Maybe some % mitigation loss for soldiers would do good for them, being in frenzy wasnt supposed to make you still harder than clothies. Change how bubble system works, only pve skill with full features and small features for pvp

[stage]

As I see it Frenzy stance need a permanent -%movement snare when activated, something like 10-20%. It wont impact pve, but will help when dealing with juggernauts. Well in this case polearm no brain guards. Having ton of dmg, fast movement and ton of armor and hp is just wrong.

And if you played any juggernaut type in other games, you all know they are the slowest class for that reason. So again, adding snare to frenzy stance is the right solution here.

[Lo-DTemplar-ne]

Originally Posted by stage As I see it Frenzy stance need a permanent -%movement snare when activated, something like 10-20%. It wont impact pve, but will help when dealing with juggernauts. Well in this case polearm no brain guards. Having ton of dmg, fast movement and ton of armor and hp is just wrong. And if you played any juggernaut type in other games, you all know they are the slowest class for that reason. So again, adding snare to frenzy stance is the right solution here.

Sorry, absolutely no, playing the class with least mobility and carrying flags shouldnt be any more of a penalty then it allready is. -20% movement and carrying flags is more or less off the table, i wouldnt touch them. And killing stuff, with that kind of penelty, it would make soldiers absolutely useless since it would be impossible to kill anyting at all.

If anything there should be a speedboost to the ones playing in frenzy, you know, risk and reward.

Cap max mitigation in frenzy to 5% and increase the benefits from it dramatically, with like a 20% speedboost.

Originally Posted by darknessjw Maybe some % mitigation loss for soldiers would do good for them

Wont speak for the other soldiers but on DT but definitely yes.

And this has been suggested and its infact allready in the class, just as its in conq thru carnage, and its called talisman mastery. If that baby actually had a positive impact on game play (so people used it) then dps dts with full aa would have about 46% armor and 43% protection at pvp 10, in defence.

There are tons of suggestions on tl regarding both talisman mastery and how to handle vom and bring back the skill in the class.

Its infact not the dps that makes dt OP, its how easy you can achieve it. People think its OP since they get a negative reinforcements every 20 combo that crits for 2,5K and even more so when it happens on the fear, once every 60 minutes of gameplay.