[Kandur]

Originally Posted by Sygma No no when you're not even on the side of someone, hittin the toon from the front and weee, the guy is staggered. -_-

Never seen that.

[Touchii]

Originally Posted by Slith if rangers get killed easly in 1v1 by other classes thats a l2p issue, see what I did there?

You didnt do anything there sorry fact stays, ranger is worthless in 1 vs 1,there is huge diffrence in between world pvp and minis, ofcource in JS and br ranged classes outshine others,but again in hv and lt, melees have the advantage, world pvp is diffrent story, because I know you are refering to that, so again you didnt do anything there, but to stay on topic, because every pvp thread is about rangers these,people should consider that each class can be used in pve as well,you can balance pvp but that will effect pve,thing is with some classes is the aas, funcom made the aas too powerfull,in terms you can use pve feats from aas in pvp, that made classes unbalanced, example is taking the shot feat, I dont have that one on ranger, its pve feat but it can be used in pvp, I really dont understand why? why make that feat availble in pvp as well? they should change that whole aas system, make clear which feats you can use in pve and which you can use in pvp,that whole system made both areas (pvp and pve) unbalanced, and then you have the gear,making pve gear better then pvp gear its not what I call balance,either make it equal or remove that dependecy in pvp.

[Bendowill]

Ranger is worthless in 1on1? Do you mean this ironically?

[Touchii]

Originally Posted by Bendowill Ranger is worthless in 1on1? Do you mean this ironically?

I was being sarcastic, since every pvp thread is about rangers, rangers and rangers.

[Aelona]

Originally Posted by Kandur Never seen that.

Huh ? it happen all the time

[Scythie]

"You know how it is.
Cows go moo, dogs go woof, PvP players go the PvP is unbalanced."

Quote of the internets

[Zaelot]

Originally Posted by Kandur What concreatly was buffed? Storm stike cooldown was redused to 15s from 25s and useless minus hate feat was changed to 200 critical damage rating + hit rating 5/5. What else was buffed in tempest? =) Have no idea what about u talking here. Do u talk about stagger - guardian's pole kb or CC effect applying while hitting target to his back?

3 different evade procs up from i think one.
dps boost from the new evade aswell xD
more crit damage rating and a combo that does more damage than a 3 step conq WW the 10 secs sooner on someone is a big asset. More dps with your const increase.

It all stacks up, add to that that your "toggled buffs" are more powerful than the other classes aswell as highest base dps weapon meaning weapon damage buffs are madly increased.
You can swap between 15% weapon damage or 5% straight mitigations... thats awesome.

Temp-Gen Guard is insane ^^

[mehuzi]

Guardian is the only class that can't be countered properly in group pvp. In before guardian player suggesting everyone should focus on guardian first because that way he doesn't get stacks up.

The rest of the classes are either easymode (e.g.demo) or cheesymode (e.g.assasin) but guardian is both and frosting on top.

[Kandur]

Originally Posted by Zaelot 3 different evade procs up from i think one. dps boost from the new evade aswell xD more crit damage rating and a combo that does more damage than a 3 step conq WW the 10 secs sooner on someone is a big asset. More dps with your const increase. It all stacks up, add to that that your "toggled buffs" are more powerful than the other classes aswell as highest base dps weapon meaning weapon damage buffs are madly increased. You can swap between 15% weapon damage or 5% straight mitigations... thats awesome. Temp-Gen Guard is insane ^^

ok, how many guards you know using Lighting reflexes tree? DPS boost from evade buff? May i count this like a joke?=)
First of all Lightning reflexes doesnt stuck with redoubt and subterfuge. It means redoubt and subterfuge doesnt proc while LR is active. Second stuff is well geared ppl have 20% hit rating. It means ppl ignore ur evade rating. Players with good hit rating can penetrate even carnage conq 100% evade bubble, so guardian's 35% evade is close to be useless.
Second stuff guardian doesnt have enough feats to get redoubt, lightning reflexes and subterfuge. So 90% of guards doesnt have this feats.
Third stuff: Pls tell me how many stucks u can get for 10 seconds with 35% evade? Sombody should hit you 10 times in 10 seconds period and you should evade all this 10 attacks to get full profit from this feat. It can be possible only if some retarded pet necro attack you by 8 melee pets, so maybe you will get full profit from this feat, but in practice maximum bonuse you can get is 2-3 stucks (30-45% weapon damage) - IMBAH =) Pretty useless for ultimate feat. 15% from general tree much more usefull than lightning reflexes.

If you talk about insane combat rating from fortitude, its about 500 combat rating for top geared guards, realy insane numbers =)

So pls tell me again feats except Storm Strike cooldown and 200 hit rating/crit damage rating were buffed?=)

Guardian is very strong pvp class nowdays, but tears about OP are all about BV times butthurt.

[Blacksoulx]

Kandur mate, guard is op as hell and yes i have pvp 8 guard at the same time im aware that DT is op as hell also but DT can be cced for like 60% of time every minute. Im not saying that guard should be nerfed but ur statements how many nerfs guards got is clear evidence how class was(and still is) unbalanced. Anyway i dont want to see guards nerfed becouse like rax once said "guard is perfect cure for gay classes", theres nothing better then when u resist 2 ccs in the row from ranger/(insert any caster) and then u tear them apart with frenzy+fully buffed kb+ss+cw .