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Old 19th January 2012, 17:08     stage is offline   #1
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Hi guys anyone can help me with some tips on how to improve my dps in raids and what is some of the best rotation, as I seem to not be able to get most of the class atm despite having good gear and ps+ds strikes maxed.

atm seem to have two viable ways to rotate
CA rotation or Shred blow VI+V spam

I dont really like the second one, as i prefer to support with ursine braw and ether theft in the rotation.

Normally i would go
Blood flow - Mani Forest+Spirit - Internal Bleed starter - ER+RuneofAgression+Finisher - CA4 - CA3 - UB4 - Blood flow - Internal Bleed - ER+Ether theft - Mani of Sun or Moss - SB6 - Blood Flow - Internal Bleed

Think i really miss something, and should go down to something more simple as my dps still isnt what i want it to be.
Current build I am using since the "nerfbat"
http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...416-15,2411-11

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Old 19th January 2012, 18:18     noite80 is offline   #2
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claws of reaper make the diference with mutilation^^ rotation of sb>ub

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Old 19th January 2012, 22:59     Lurvi is offline   #3
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Well, what is your dps on a single straw man?
Old 19th January 2012, 23:13     stage is offline   #4
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950 - 1050 average (depending on lucky crits) in the normal healing gear i usually go, amras pride, kakaba guide, tiger's chest helm pants, t4 wrist boots, t3.5 rest,
rings deaths ward and tricksters charm, t3.5 blunt, claw of stone.

Like i said, am more interested on what you think is the better rotation for dps, as i am getting basicly the same results with CA or SB - all in the range of 900-1k, and the difference could be just some crit difference.

so to make it clear, its not about what gear u wear, its not about what aa's u have. its not about what feat build u use

1option - Standard CA spam
2option - SB spam
3option - something complicated like the one i posted

technically u will get the best dps with SB spam, however its not gona be more then 50dps by the testing iv done on strawman, however CA spam is easier and faster to execute. But again, SB has been nerfed into oblivion and SB6 is well kinda of a fail

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Old 20th January 2012, 08:14     2feet is offline   #5
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well i think the complicated option 3 is more valid for dps rotation (and more fun for sure ).
If u wanna dps more u need to spec mutilation and claws of reaper.

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Old 20th January 2012, 11:42     Calore is offline   #6
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If you really wanna max your BS DPS, you have to work both on gear and rotation.
 
You are main Destiny BS, so indeed you have no gear problems
 
Anyway, what you need is accessories / gear with high base DPS (aka Combat Rating, including Comb Rat deriving from Strength).
Critical stats (Critical Rating and Critical Damage Rating) are also important, but focus on accessories / gear that give both.
So, you will notice difference by replacing Amra's Pride with a DPS cloack.
One of these:
 
Vigilant Serpentweave (Toth Amon drop)
Cape of Reprisal                               (Scarlet Faction)
Vicious Cape of Ill Intent              (Vile Nativity drop, House of Crom)
 
Also, when you want to max DPS replace Death's Ward (great surv ring anyway) with a DPS ring, like:
 
Cang-Jei's Laugh
Coil of the Python
Ring of Flaming Fury
Energetic Band
 
You could also replace Kakaba necklace with Toth Amon necklace (I do not have it unfortunately ):
 
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About rotation, BS best manifestation for DPS is Sun, and not because of the dot (that has a similar damage of Spirit dot) but because of the 6 sec +75% Weapon Damage increase.
During that small window of time, try to to avoid using anything else than some heavy DPS combo (Ursine Brawl 4, max CA level, SB V or VI finisher).
Also, try in your rotation to cast IB 2 times on Sun, and 1 time on Spirit .. and so on.
 
Mani Rotation: Sun, IB, ..., IB, Forest, ..., Spirit, IB, ..., Sun, IB, ..., IB, ...
 
Finally, go for a Muti spec, better with 2 points in Weight of the World.
And also max perks and feats for base Combo DPS (perks are in the class PVP section, bottom right); max IB hits, bleed DPS and also SB dps.
If you do not have, buy Ursine Brawl IV book.
Old 20th January 2012, 12:03     Fsen is offline   #7
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I always use sun and forest manifestations in raids. My best combo dmg in raid last night was over 11k - 2k from white hits and 9,5k from combo finisher( sun mani + roa + bloodflow buff + renewal~%80weapon dmg + sb6). focus on critical rating/dmg and timing your buffs. T3 crafted is a big pluss also. Dmg can be more than i did if you have full tiger set, vigillant serpertweave cloak, Sets perversion necklace and Coil of pyton rings. Hope i will get these one day

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Old 20th January 2012, 12:28     Misiuggah is offline   #8
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Since you already have uber-gear and all the important AA the only steps left are:

1. Mutilation build (with WotW etc.)
2. More dps oriented gear
3. No Ether Theft
4. Pure IB+SB spam.

1+2+3 should give you at least 1200 dps on strawman (that's what I'm squeezing right now with my poor gear - no dps accessories except Cang-Jei's Laugh).

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Old 20th January 2012, 12:37     Calore is offline   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Misiuggah View Post
1+2+3 should give you at least 1200 dps on strawman (that's what I'm squeezing right now with my poor gear - no dps accessories except Cang-Jei's Laugh).
Be serious.. you have a Full Tiger set and a Shillelagh ..
Old 20th January 2012, 13:07     stage is offline   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ragnog81 View Post
About rotation, BS best manifestation for DPS is Sun, and not because of the dot (that has a similar damage of Spirit dot) but because of the 6 sec +75% Weapon Damage increase.
During that small window of time, try to to avoid using anything else than some heavy DPS combo (Ursine Brawl 4, max CA level, SB V or VI finisher).
Also, try in your rotation to cast IB 2 times on Sun, and 1 time on Spirit .. and so on.
 
Mani Rotation: Sun, IB, ..., IB, Forest, ..., Spirit, IB, ..., Sun, IB, ..., IB, ...
I have the scarlet circle one and cang jei, but only use them in t3, groups as in t3.5 t4 i prefer to have some extra survivability and stay alive when **** hits the fan. And well my dps suck anyway so staying alive healing and removing ****.

But yes I think you are right about Mani rotation, as at the moment for me is the other way around, so switching to Sun might give some increase, going to test later.

@Missugah yeh i have full tiger as well, which the last time i checked was still better (kinda) dps wise then t3.5 and t4 even by tiny bit.
 

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