[Zaelot]

Who the heck cares if this nutter played Age of Conan? That's like saying "This guy played xBox!" or "This guy drank beer!"

Makes zero difference it's completely irrelvant

Keep the thread for condolences and show some damned respect.

[Milly]

I do show respect and condolence to all the lost poeple. However there is one thing that bothers me - already now you can see in the internet blogs and forums discussing the motives of the manaic. I will not start this discussion because my point is - it should NOT be discussed no matter what. If people start discussing it, think about it and in some point agree it will mean that they justify the murderer. This should not be allowed, his work should be forgotten like he never existed, that's the best punishment.

[Zaelot]

Originally Posted by Milly I do show respect and condolence to all the lost poeple. However there is one thing that bothers me - already now you can see in the internet blogs and forums discussing the motives of the manaic. I will not start this discussion because my point is - it should NOT be discussed no matter what. If people start discussing it, think about it and in some point agree it will mean that they justify the murderer. This should not be allowed, his work should be forgotten like he never existed, that's the best punishment.

Exactly. Eradicated as a pest to the human race. And forgotten. It was not aimed at you btw

Very sorry OT: people like this cannot be cured, something is fundamentally wrong. Hence my last point, they can only cost more time energy and resources. Eradication of such people is not revenge in any way, you have pests, they are destroyed.

Again, hope justice as seen fit is made by the law now.

[mercsteff]

Originally Posted by Callo This is stupid. Revenge is nothing but a feeble attempt of retribution. It helps noone and all it does is levels the terrorist and the prosecutor.

revenge is retribution... you say its stupid, but you have no way of knowing how it feels to be left in his wake. I didn't call for him to be killed on the spot (even though I would not hesitate to do it myself if it was my child - i wouldn't blink). I simply suggested the best way is to give him to the people who's life he destroyed... I also suggested that this thing is not human, thus he should be stripped of all human rights.

As for the second discussion where people are concerned he played aoc... So what? Are we going back in time to the days where we accuse the beatles, judas priest, metallica and alice cooper for deranged teenager suicides? Or the more recent years when GTA was sued for stupid kids who had no education or guidance from their parents and went on to shoot classmates? Are you going have some silly moral restraint from listening to deep purple just because charles manson liked them as well? ofc not. Same with AoC which is a BIG game in Norway. Moreover, it is a fantasy game that has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with what he did... Whats next? Dig a list of movies he saw during his life and put all the directors under accusation?

[Zaelot]

Originally Posted by mercsteff revenge is retribution... you say its stupid, but you have no way of knowing how it feels to be left in his wake. I didn't call for him to be killed on the spot (even though I would not hesitate to do it myself if it was my child - i wouldn't blink). I simply suggested the best way is to give him to the people who's life he destroyed... I also suggested that this thing is not human, thus he should be stripped of all human rights. As for the second discussion where people are concerned he played aoc... So what? Are we going back in time to the days where we accuse the beatles, judas priest, metallica and alice cooper for deranged teenager suicides? Or the more recent years when GTA was sued for stupid kids who had no education or guidance from their parents and went on to shoot classmates? Are you going have some silly moral restraint from listening to deep purple just because charles manson liked them as well? ofc not. Same with AoC which is a BIG game in Norway. Moreover, it is a fantasy game that has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with what he did... Whats next? Dig a list of movies he saw during his life and put all the directors under accusation?

Fully agree, now is time to ignore replies and let others post concerns/condolences but ppl including me shouldn't be discussing anything here

[Invino]

Condolences to all of Norway and especially those affected.

Vengeance is needed and with a bit of luck, one of his victims is a child of some nutter in his future prison who will love to have his way with him.

[sabbath1989]

The number of killed on Utoya has by the police been reduced to 68, tho they're still searching the fjord for more.
Seems that this ******* was not alone either, claiming there exist 2 other "cells", and youths from the island claims to have seen another shooter.

One would believe these actions would give him death penalty or lifetime in prison, but no, he can "risk" only 30 years in prison, that's just too stupid, release him to the mob, i say.

[Rookni]

Originally Posted by sabbath1989 One would believe these actions would give him death penalty or lifetime in prison, but no, he can "risk" only 30 years in prison, that's just too stupid, release him to the mob, i say.

They can keep him even after the 21 - 30 years, locked up under watch for a 5 year period every time. So this guy will stay in for lifetime I think.

Was on the memorial last night in Oslo. Never been more touched than to see how many that showed up. The insane amount of flowers and lights. Will never forget it.

[ectomorph]

Originally Posted by Rookni Was on the memorial last night in Oslo. Never been more touched than to see how many that showed up. The insane amount of flowers and lights. Will never forget it.

Yup was a truley amazing sight. Had trouble walking around , everywhere

[render]

just want to shout out to Switchnor form AFJ that was one of the first ppl from search and rescue that went to the utoya to help. not thinking of his own safty.