[Siminia]

Well sice nobody else do post it:

30/10/11 - Circle of Nine vs TNL - TNL wins with Keep at 100%
C9 left after 20 min or so.

C9 wants their BK back, and using a russian tiktak and bored out the alliance.

[redevil82]

Not that I care about sieges or anything but shouldn't their be some consequence of declaring and attack when you don't mean it? Somthing like you can't zone out until the siege time ends or a 'forefit' button is pressed. If the siege was forefited then that guild cannot attack again for 1-2 weeks?

[Barrefaeli]

Originally Posted by redevil82 Not that I care about sieges or anything but shouldn't their be some consequence of declaring and attack when you don't mean it? Somthing like you can't zone out until the siege time ends or a 'forefit' button is pressed. If the siege was forefited then that guild cannot attack again for 1-2 weeks?

shouldnt the game be working properly? having no bugs, no lags, balance etc.... "should'nt" is a very big word mate.

[Vutra]

Originally Posted by redevil82 Not that I care about sieges or anything but shouldn't their be some consequence of declaring and attack when you don't mean it? Somthing like you can't zone out until the siege time ends or a 'forefit' button is pressed. If the siege was forefited then that guild cannot attack again for 1-2 weeks?

if u have BK, legitimate right of any guild is to declare an attack...the price 4 BK is that u have to defend it, if u wont, no mater if the guild who declare it shows up or not...and who says that they have to show up when siege counter starts...they can come 15/30/45/60 min later...crying for the wolf when there is none can be good tactic sometimes

[redevil82]

Originally Posted by Vutra if u have BK, legitimate right of any guild is to declare an attack...the price 4 BK is that u have to defend it, if u wont, no mater if the guild who declare it shows up or not...and who says that they have to show up when siege counter starts...they can come 15/30/45/60 min later...crying for the wolf when there is none can be good tactic sometimes

Which would be fine if sieges could be easily organised with maybe max 24 per side. With 48 it takes a lot of work to get the numbers so for one side to not show up is bad form and should be blocked by the 'game'. I don't think anyone wants ghost sieging to be a tactic. Although in this case it looks more like the mini game behaviour of showing up seeing you cant win and leaving, and ppl wonder why PvP is not a priority.

[bogus]

Originally Posted by Vutra if u have BK, legitimate right of any guild is to declare an attack...the price 4 BK is that u have to defend it, if u wont, no mater if the guild who declare it shows up or not...and who says that they have to show up when siege counter starts...they can come 15/30/45/60 min later...crying for the wolf when there is none can be good tactic sometimes

Maybe on pvp server. When you can show guild who declare you siege and not come what happens to scums who waste your time. But on pve server?

Declaring fake sieges is good only for one side
- declare and don't come - defenders waste time
- declare and come but defenders are not there - keep taken
- declare and come but defenders are there - siege.

3xWin for Attackers, 2xLose for Defenders. And Defenders can't do **** about fake sieges.

[Scootyy]

Declare attack and dont show more times then 1 is harrasment in AoC policy.

Learn the rules lads. just petition and gm will record it, if they do it all the time the GM off the guild will get banned, and if he ignores this the guild will get disbanned.

[Landorien]

Yeah I remember they added it as an act of harassment sometime after a certain crom guild, would repeatedly challenge a guild and only show up with 1-6 people, if that.
If memory serves, the offending guild risks temporary bans for guild/officers.

[MagnusLL]

Originally Posted by redevil82 I don't think anyone wants ghost sieging to be a tactic. Although in this case it looks more like the mini game behaviour of showing up seeing you cant win and leaving, and ppl wonder why PvP is not a priority.

You are correct. There is a rule in place against "ghost sieging" (or there was at least, with Funcom who knows), but it's applied to guilds who declare war and then never show up for the siege (or show up in ridiculously small numbers). In this case the force appears, starts a regular siege, then (I'm guessing, wasn't there so I don't know) once they realize there's no chance to win they just leave the map.

The fault, as always, is Funcom's. Sieges give no rewards whatsoever for participation, and who wants to get pummeled for 90 minutes to leave empty handed? Games are supposed to be fun, not a second job.
No rewards for losing + no mechanism to rebalance lopsided fights = people leaving early. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand...

[Miloen]

15/11/11 - Vandallion vs Destiny - Destiny wins, keep 100%.