[Chaoskult]

pressing strikes
decisive strikes
without warning
boneshatter (1 point only)

hybrid spec in reaver stance with 3 stuns 2 knockbacks
top dps killing machine
no need to respec back and forth for raids or instances

go full reaver and you lack all the cc's but got the dps
go full berserk and you lack the dps but have the cc's
go hybrid and you get both

[XeLx]

PVP: (hybrid specc)
Pressing strikes / Precise strikes
Liberation / TW
ATG


PVE: (reaver specc)
Pressing strikes / Decisive strikes
Liberation / Flanking
WW / Upheaval

[MagnusLL]

Originally Posted by Chaoskult go full reaver and you lack all the cc's but got the dps go full berserk and you lack the dps but have the cc's go hybrid and you get both

What about anti-CCs? Isn't hybrid a bit light on those?

[Chaoskult]

Originally Posted by MagnusLL What about anti-CCs? Isn't hybrid a bit light on those?

don't need anti-cc in raids.

[-Legend-]

Any barb specing anti CCs for raids should be removed, it's like ToS's specing cyclones.

hybrid build is not great imo. It's lower DPS than Reaver/General and in General you pick up all the -hate things, including distraction which is fantastic for high DPS groups (always found it to be a must have anyway, once you stringing together multiple Upheaval and WA crits, you'll be pulling aggro off even the best tanks without any -hate, unless your gear is bad).

Barb CC's should never be needed, if you're a dual wield barb, there's 11 other classes that have faster CC's than you do.

[MagnusLL]

Originally Posted by LegendEU Any barb specing anti CCs for raids should be removed, it's like ToS's specing cyclones.

Oh, I know it full well
I was just under the mistaken impression the hybrid build was intended for pvp too i.e. hybrid as in "both for pve and pvp" as opposed to "both for raids and instances".

I agree with your point about the -hate in general for pve. Irrespective of other factors, it will allow higher sustained dps; and the barb CC are unfortunately slow as hell.

[Chaoskult]

hybrid build that i'm using is kind of a "leatherman" build i don't pvp so i don't comment on that. but i do not need to respec for any pve actions. solo, hard modes, raids.. i can do them all with same spec and with excellent results.

[Maly]

Hybrid and reaver/general is both good specs imo, both miss some cool stuff but it's same with every class= can't have it all :P.
It's up to you what you value most, I've been messing around with both set ups, soloing in hybrid spec is bit easier compared to reaver. But in raids I like to max my dps output (that's what we are supposed to do, or at least try),so that is why I always go with general/reaver spec. Distraction is nice addition to other dps'rs in my group (I pretend to be teamplayer) and cc's, well.. no comment after extra steps they gave us.

[Torhkir]

I use Reaver-general spec:
http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...313-23,4319-22

I use Pressing/Decisive - Liberation/TW(or Flanking but its **** - Upheaval or Bone shatter/WW or Determination

Bone shatter vs upheaval: spam upheaval all the time and have 1k ish for every 9 tick of the combo or rotation BS with CoS9, idk..
Would love the dot to crit, but sadly no ..

WW is nice ofc for the stacks, but I really like to have 15 stacks always refreshed with determinaton. Tho, I need to spec 1 or 2 points in Atrocity.

Imo Reaver + general is way to go in any instances or raid. No need for zerker..well unless you dont wanna respec for the cc's for pvp.

Still I see some ppl with decent dmg from zerker, hence stunning punch hits like a truck.

[-Legend-]

I use Boneshatter for one encounter and one encounter only now - thoth amon.

Other fights it's better to use Without Warning or, if it's a dungeon like Necropolis or Archfiend that is built on short burst and you lose your stacks regularly, run Determination.

Boneshatter is a great combo and if stacks weren't a factor, higher DPS using that, and Upheaval, but I like my stacks at 15 asap and them not running out ever.