[Garrett]

Originally Posted by Jefirst and since garret decides that they are farmers and garrett decides that futi took farmers, it is so? hahahaha you are epicly funny guy. You really think world runs around how you think?

You really dont seem to understand when you have lost an argument, but ok lets move on with it if you want to humiliate yourself a bit more. So we have 2 possible meanings for the word hyrkaniafarmer and we disagree what the majority of Fury thinks is the correct one.

Hyrkania farmer is:
1)A person who transferred to Hyrkania server and farmed x amount of tokens in peace and without doing pvp.
2)A person who continued farming at Hyrkania after the date when Futilez decided that people should stop farming tokens (the same date that some people from hyrkania applied to Futilez).

So you think that the second is the correct one and majority of Fury thinks like this?

[Garrett]

Originally Posted by Lied win= get to farm tokens in peace because the other guild give up

That might be a win for you, but not for everyone. I for one hate the tokenfarming since it is boring and has nothing to do with pvp. Making others leave is a victory only for those who want the tokens more than actually enjoyable pvp content. In my opinion pvpers on both sides lose in that situation. I am much more eager to go to CE when there are enemies to kill and i bet so are manyh other pvpers.

I enjoy Bori most when there is about 12vs12 people, with ambushes, moving around and tactics. You can even do a lot of sologanking in Bori nowadays when there is not a full raid of enemies around. Too many people on Fury are ignoring CE because they cant gain tokens. The fun of CE is in beating the force that is farming, disappearing for a while and doing it again. Raid vs raid is ok content too, but a bit too laggy and repeatitive. The real pvp in AoC at the moment is in CE at those times when there are max 12 players on one side.

For me victory in Bori is when you do a good pvp session, have nice figths, wipe the enemy more than they wipe you and the best of them all is beating larger forces with a querilla group or solo.

Only tokenwhores and pvers think that making everyone else leave the zone is victory, since it has nothing to do with skill, rather who is desperate enough to stay there after getting bored of zerging. This is also the reason why the smaller guilds wont have any chance in Bori token gaining. Even if they could pull out that 24 man raid, they dont have enough replacements to maintain 24 players long enough to make everyone else so bored that they leave.

It might be a good thing if FC would make a second zone like CE and limit the number of players from one guild to 10 or so. This way Bori might work like it was designed and it might actually be fun. These 10 v 10 situations are too rare at the moment and they are the best content Bori has to offer.

[Haydyn]

Originally Posted by Garrett You really dont seem to understand when you have lost an argument, but ok lets move on with it if you want to humiliate yourself a bit more. So we have 2 possible meanings for the word hyrkaniafarmer and we disagree what the majority of Fury thinks is the correct one. Hyrkania farmer is: 1)A person who transferred to Hyrkania server and farmed x amount of tokens in peace and without doing pvp. 2)A person who continued farming at Hyrkania after the date when Futilez decided that people should stop farming tokens (the same date that some people from hyrkania applied to Futilez). So you think that the second is the correct one and majority of Fury thinks like this?

Does anyone really care about what the definition is of "Hyrkania Farmer" except you and Nastrandir?
Does even half of nastrandir even care about what defines an Hyrkanian Farmer?
Are you really that lacking of anything to do to continue an arguement over something so trivial?

Yes Garrett we have recruited a couple of people who battered some rocks on Hyrkania, Yes we once said we wouldnt recruit these people officially BUT we changed our minds and took in a couple who promised to stop farming upon application and provided proof of this

We didnt realise it would be the source of such QQ or we would have done it sooner

Sorry my apologies i forgot your laughing at us for it ye? Ye thats why you continue a several page emorant over what defines a Hyrkanian Farmer when the only people who really give a **** are you and Nodibok.

p.s Hyrkanian Farmer is 2 words btw you wouldnt want to humiliate yourself by giving the impression you have the IQ of lint would you?

[RogueKnight]

Originally Posted by Garrett That might be a win for you, but not for everyone. I for one hate the tokenfarming since it is boring and has nothing to do with pvp.

and that comes from a guy that always farms in mornings with his guild when
noone is around,fail xD

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[PAMPAM]

Originally Posted by Garrett You really dont seem to understand when you have lost an argument, but ok lets move on with it if you want to humiliate yourself a bit more. So we have 2 possible meanings for the word hyrkaniafarmer and we disagree what the majority of Fury thinks is the correct one. Hyrkania farmer is: 1)A person who transferred to Hyrkania server and farmed x amount of tokens in peace and without doing pvp. 2)A person who continued farming at Hyrkania after the date when Futilez decided that people should stop farming tokens (the same date that some people from hyrkania applied to Futilez). So you think that the second is the correct one and majority of Fury thinks like this?

I think you are losing it man.
You are trying to prove yourselve that Futi has somewhere in past taken one farmer in the guild - you just try to twist is as you wish.... ok...

so why you same time claim that "futi takes farmers in guild" -
Where this obiviously means present time... notice the way you presented it first time, where this all began from.

So you basically now try to prove me here that both of these of your claims are true same time:
"Futi takes farmer(S!!) in guild"
"Futi has taken ONE guy, who had farmed a little but stopped farming when applied to guild since it was forbidden"


You really need to go to the school. Pay attention what you are after for, you just drive yourselve in the corner. It has already pointed out that the claim "futi takes farmers" which you said - is not true.

[Garrett]

Originally Posted by Haydyn Does anyone really care about what the definition is of "Hyrkania Farmer" except you and Nastrandir? Does even half of nastrandir even care about what defines an Hyrkanian Farmer? Are you really that lacking of anything to do to continue an arguement over something so trivial? Yes Garrett we have recruited a couple of people who battered some rocks on Hyrkania, Yes we once said we wouldnt recruit these people officially BUT we changed our minds and took in a couple who promised to stop farming upon application and provided proof of this We didnt realise it would be the source of such QQ or we would have done it sooner Sorry my apologies i forgot your laughing at us for it ye? Ye thats why you continue a several page emorant over what defines a Hyrkanian Farmer when the only people who really give a **** are you and Nodibok. p.s Hyrkanian Farmer is 2 words btw you wouldnt want to humiliate yourself by giving the impression you have the IQ of lint would you?

Just like I said before it is funny how you stated ages ago that you dont care what others think about your recruiting policy and you yourself are the one that has given most publicity to this whole thing, by continuously explaining yourself to others. If you would have really just "not cared" at all like most Futilez have done, nobody would have bothered teasing you about it. Seems we really hit a nerve with this thing, since you feel so strongly about it and get so raged every time it is mentioned. Keep explaining yourself to me, while shouting "I dont care what others think". Atleast I find it higlhly entertaining how easy it is to annoy you and Jetfirst about it.

If I would have to hand over the award for promoting the hyrkaniafarmer concept and general stupidity in logical thinkin I would have hard time chosing between you and Jetfrist.

Please stop recruiting hyrkaniafarmers Futilez. It is lame. I can allready sense the upcoming Futilez and Better Tomorrow merge.

[Garrett]

Originally Posted by Jefirst I think you are losing it man. You are trying to prove yourselve that Futi has somewhere in past taken one farmer in the guild.... ok... so why you same time claim that "futi takes farmers in guild" - Where this obiviously means present time... notice the way you presented it first time, where this all began from. So you basically now try to prove me here that both of these of your claims are true same time: "Futi takes farmer(S!!) in guild" "Futi has taken ONE guy, who had farmed a little but stopped farming when applied to guild since it was forbidden" You really need to go to the school. Pay attention what you are after for, you just drive yourselve in the corner.

So now that you see how stupid you were and you understand that you lost the first argument you try to jump into another one. Now you agree that you have taken a farmer (multiple in reality) and you want to start discussing about why I said Futilez takes farmers instead of Futilez took farmers? I say Futilez takes farmers, since I know it will not stop with the 4+ farmers they allready have.

Anyways thank you for finally realizing such a simple point about the farmers that normal people realized without any explanations. Also thank you for all the entertainment while making yourself look like a clown. Please give me some more great tips like "go to school". I take all the feedback from mentally challenged people seriously.

[Lied]

Originally Posted by Garrett That might be a win for you, but not for everyone. I for one hate the tokenfarming since it is boring and has nothing to do with pvp. Making others leave is a victory only for those who want the tokens more than actually enjoyable pvp content. In my opinion pvpers on both sides lose in that situation. I am much more eager to go to CE when there are enemies to kill and i bet so are manyh other pvpers. I enjoy Bori most when there is about 12vs12 people, with ambushes, moving around and tactics. You can even do a lot of sologanking in Bori nowadays when there is not a full raid of enemies around. Too many people on Fury are ignoring CE because they cant gain tokens. The fun of CE is in beating the force that is farming, disappearing for a while and doing it again. Raid vs raid is ok content too, but a bit too laggy and repeatitive. The real pvp in AoC at the moment is in CE at those times when there are max 12 players on one side. For me victory in Bori is when you do a good pvp session, have nice figths, wipe the enemy more than they wipe you and the best of them all is beating larger forces with a querilla group or solo. Only tokenwhores and pvers think that making everyone else leave the zone is victory, since it has nothing to do with skill, rather who is desperate enough to stay there after getting bored of zerging. This is also the reason why the smaller guilds wont have any chance in Bori token gaining. Even if they could pull out that 24 man raid, they dont have enough replacements to maintain 24 players long enough to make everyone else so bored that they leave. It might be a good thing if FC would make a second zone like CE and limit the number of players from one guild to 10 or so. This way Bori might work like it was designed and it might actually be fun. These 10 v 10 situations are too rare at the moment and they are the best content Bori has to offer.

I get your point but my definition of winning is based on the principle that whoever gets the reward (in this case xp, tokens, prowess) also won the fight. After 2 years in the game it seems to me that the average PvP player seeks easy earned rewards and avoid a fight if it means that they can farm whatever reward they want more effectivly. A mentality FC should have in their mind next time they introduce new PvP content.

[Tikume]

Originally Posted by Lied I get your point but my definition of winning is based on the principle that whoever gets the reward (in this case xp, tokens, prowess) also won the fight. After 2 years in the game it seems to me that the average PvP player seeks easy earned rewards and avoid a fight if it means that they can farm whatever reward they want more effectivly. A mentality FC should have in their mind next time they introduce new PvP content.

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