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Old 22nd May 2008, 18:24     Muro is offline   #71
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Can i do an upgrade online on Microsoft, or do i need to buy a new copy ?

All OEM, Express, and Retail Vista 32 bit and 64 bit installation DVD's can be used to install Vista with any 32 bit product key number. This means if you own a license for a certain edition already you only have to find or download the X64 bit version installation disk to format your computer and reuse your same installatie code.
Can i get some kind of verification that Vista OEM owner truely holds license for both 32bit and 64bit?So far ive found that you are bound to 32bit _or_ 64bit only,if you have OEM.I´d be happy to use all my 4gb memory and install downloaded image 64bit Vista on my computer!
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Old 23rd May 2008, 00:29     Orcasmatron is offline   #72
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Post very good post

A very good post, every one should read. Did know all this info but i loved the way how detailed you wrote it!
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Old 23rd May 2008, 07:54     profundido is offline   #73
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Heya all,

excuse me for not having followed up here in the past days but in that time I have been lvling up my POM to 55 and getting myself severely addicted. I'll be processing all replies/questions at some point soon in one big batch and then I'll hopefully find the time between work and play to follow them up alot faster. (goes quickly back to work now)
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Old 23rd May 2008, 08:36     Minau is offline   #74
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Indeed, im now close to giving up. Ive tried all resolutions, all different settings, formatted my PC and reinstalling windows and drivers. And i still get between 15-20 FPS no matter what ive tried (occansionly lower) Ive tried the rivatuner fix as well. low quality, high quality u name it, allways the same kind of fps ! Is there light in the tunnel or is it my puter that is to weak ?

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: OptiPlex GX620
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3070MB RAM
Page File: 407MB used, 4549MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play-bildskärm
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7516 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/3/2008 05:46:00, 6108160 bytes
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Old 23rd May 2008, 09:31     Lanfearaz is offline   #75
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Indeed, im now close to giving up. Ive tried all resolutions, all different settings, formatted my PC and reinstalling windows and drivers. And i still get between 15-20 FPS no matter what ive tried (occansionly lower) Ive tried the rivatuner fix as well. low quality, high quality u name it, allways the same kind of fps ! Is there light in the tunnel or is it my puter that is to weak ?

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: OptiPlex GX620
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3070MB RAM
Page File: 407MB used, 4549MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play-bildskärm
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7516 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/3/2008 05:46:00, 6108160 bytes
Thats strange.

My system:

Asus p5nd2 sli-deluxe
Geforce 7900gt
2gb ddr2 ram
Xp pro sp2
P4 3.2 HT

Mine is 3 years old, and planning on buying a new 1 or atleast upgrade this. But reading lots of the posts on these forums scares me tbh. Seems lots of ppl having problems on really nice computers, so I might wait.

On my comp i pretty much uses the lowest on everything. I might be able to use some higher settings, but I didnt believe it would be possible so ahvent even tried. I get like 45-60 fps on this atm. And imo its more important that it runs smooth then that it looks great, specially on a pvp server. Might change the view distance tho, since ppl say it hardly affects their fps.

There must be somethign that screws it up for alot of ppl. When u update drivers, do u really get everything of teh old gone? I had lots of crashes due the nv4_disp.dll file.

Tried to update to the drivers on nvidia.com, but no improvement. Then I talked with a mate, who gave me a link to some overclocking forum that had a really nice guide to how u should do to update them. illt ry to find the links. And he also found the beta drivers for my card that was newly updated. Anyhow, in the guide they linked to a program called nvidia Nasty file remover.

I removed the old the usual way, followed the guide, and used the program and taht nv4_disp.dll file was not removed by the normal driver uninstall.

Sorry that this was little offtopic, but it might help someone. After all, there must be more ppl playing conan then me taht isnt ace at computers=)

Edit: Found the link: http://www.overclock.net/faqs/12466-...ing-guide.html

Last edited by Lanfearaz; 23rd May 2008 at 10:23.. Reason: update
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Old 23rd May 2008, 10:32     Minau is offline   #76
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Thats strange.

My system:

Asus p5nd2 sli-deluxe
Geforce 7900gt
2gb ddr2 ram
Xp pro sp2
P4 3.2 HT

Mine is 3 years old, and planning on buying a new 1 or atleast upgrade this. But reading lots of the posts on these forums scares me tbh. Seems lots of ppl having problems on really nice computers, so I might wait.

On my comp i pretty much uses the lowest on everything. I might be able to use some higher settings, but I didnt believe it would be possible so ahvent even tried. I get like 45-60 fps on this atm. And imo its more important that it runs smooth then that it looks great, specially on a pvp server. Might change the view distance tho, since ppl say it hardly affects their fps.

There must be somethign that screws it up for alot of ppl. When u update drivers, do u really get everything of teh old gone? I had lots of crashes due the nv4_disp.dll file.

Tried to update to the drivers on nvidia.com, but no improvement. Then I talked with a mate, who gave me a link to some overclocking forum that had a really nice guide to how u should do to update them. illt ry to find the links. And he also found the beta drivers for my card that was newly updated. Anyhow, in the guide they linked to a program called nvidia Nasty file remover.

I removed the old the usual way, followed the guide, and used the program and taht nv4_disp.dll file was not removed by the normal driver uninstall.

Sorry that this was little offtopic, but it might help someone. After all, there must be more ppl playing conan then me taht isnt ace at computers=)

Edit: Found the link: http://www.overclock.net/faqs/12466-...ing-guide.html
thx bud, gonna try it and see if it works, if any1 else has any ideas feel free to help out, it meens the world to me, been waiting so long for tis game !

EDIT: how do i know which drivers to download? there are millions of them

Last edited by Minau; 23rd May 2008 at 11:12..
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Old 23rd May 2008, 12:51     Kazio is offline   #77
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Yea, I got a friend who has that card, a QuadCore and 4Gigs of ram. Hes topping 60FPS almost all the time at 1280x1024 everything max and High.

Im stuck at 20-30 FPS at 1920x1200, High, SM3.0, No shadows, 4xFSAA with a 8800GTS 640MB, a E6600 and 4gigs on WinXP. *sniff*
Your pc have in 1920x1200 resolution almost 2x~(1.75) more for calculate then yours friend in 1280x1024....
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Old 23rd May 2008, 16:24     ApocalypticS is offline   #78
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Wow great guide, nice job man!

Cheers
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Old 23rd May 2008, 22:18     Humar is offline   #79
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I am currently haveing trouble running AoC, even on low. but when i tested it at www.canyourunit.com it said i should at least be over the recommended spec

here are my specs
* creen: 17" WXGA+ (1440 x 900) Brightview standard. Optional WXGA+ Ultra Brightview or WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050) Brightview display.
* Processor: Available with Mobile AMD Turion 64 X2 dual-core processor
* Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 discrete graphics with 256MB dedicated DDR2 VRAM
* Card Reader: 5-in-1 digital media card reader
* Four USB 2.0 ports
* ExpressCard 54 slot
* Wireless: Integrated wireless support for 802.11 a/b/g Wireless LAN and Bluetooth on select models
* Dual hard disk drive option with combined capacity up to 240GB
* 8-cell Li-Ion battery
* Weight: Starting as low as 7.8 lbs
* Speakers: Integrated Altec Lansing stereo speakers
* OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home SP2 or Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2. Optional configuration with Microsoft's Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
* Dual stereo headphone jacks -- one with high-definition audio support (S/PDIF capable)
* Optional HP webcam with integrated dual stereo microphones.

Shouldn't this be enough to play it at low ?
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Old 24th May 2008, 02:27     terrasque is offline   #80
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All in all a good writeup, but there was a few things I reacted on..

First, regarding CPU : "Nvidia cards draw their power greatly on the processor and thus generate extra load. ATI cards operate at maximum speed pretty much independent of the processor." - This sounds like a complete load of bollocks, and a quick google search did not reveal any proof of this. Do you have any links that confirms this?


Second ->"Always go for a hardware raid with a raidcontroller pci,pcie or onboard (=built-in in the motherboard)"

*BEEP*, wrong. 99% of cheap (think sub-1000$) raid cards, and mobo raids are so-called "Fake RAID"s, and does NOT give any hardware acceleration, but does all through drivers (in other words, using your cpu, that should be using all its electrons on running the game). Many of those drivers also perform rather poorly compared to other software raids. In some cases, a pure software raid gives much better performance.

Also, as a general tip, it's good to have the OS on one disk / raid, and the data/game on another disk / raid. That way system I/O won't block game I/O and vice versa (especially swap file).

Oh, and another thing. I play the game with a card with 256mb ram, and it works fine. Some textures are slow to load, but that doesn't cause any slowdown on the game.

One other thing, when it comes to 64bit and ram, if windows don't see all the installed ram, check http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605


Regarding the graphics settings, because of my old gfx card (7800GT 256mb) I did a lot of testing and tweaking to get it to run well AND look decent / useful. I won't write a guide about it (not now at least), but I did take screenshots of my current settings, and a few "showcase" screenshots. With these settings I usually get as good or better FPS than Low settings, but IMO it looks way better (and you can see into the distance).

Screenshots : http://thelazy.net/gallery2/v/games/aoc/graphics/
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