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Originally Posted by Avelives I have to say some official word on this issue would be good. I am running an ok system with a crappy card: -Intel Dual core 3.00GHz -2GB RAM -Windows XP Pro SP2 -Ati Radeon HD2400 PRO (yes i know it sucks) Thing is i intend to upgrade to a mid range card (thinking of the Sapphire Radeon HD3870 512MB) but i am loathed to do this until i know if some of these issues will be fixed or not. My own Tech problems aside (my gfx is just capable of running the game but still id expect an OK performance on the lowest settings, but instead i get barely any increase from Medium to lowest) i would expect the mid/high end cards like Nvidia8600s and above to be more than adequate for this game, yet some people with way better specs than me are reporting similar FPS issues. Have FC just created GFX way ahead of their time i wonder? Thing is the issues here are the same regardless of the quality of the systems... The settings don't seem to actually do anything (except for a few like AA, and some of the higher quality effects) I can set my view distance to 50m and see almost no difference with it set to max (as one example of many) I wonder if the retail client will have the same issue? If it does then expect to see tech threads go ballistic when all the more casual players with lower end systems (going by stereotype the EA players probably have on average better systems than those wholl be playing post-launch) Funcom need to at least acknowledge this issue as for me its one of the major flaws dampening my enjoyment of what is otherwise a great game and good launch.

again sorry to bring the sad message to you (you will never hear this from a funcom official) but your computer is really not OK for this game. You'll have major issues with your performance. You're looking at replacement of the entire computer I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Nyx1978 I'm having the same problem, in Tortage everything was fine, but since I got to Old Tarantia and later Wild Lands, my FPS has dropped a lot. (from 40-60 FPS in Tortage to 15-25 FPS in Old Tarantia/Wild Lands) This is at High settings @ 1280x1024 with 2 x AA and shadows disabled. As the lower framerate started to worry me I've put the settings on Medium, and it only gave like 3-5 FPS more than with the former settings, and putting everything to Low maybe 1 or 2 FPS more. Also see a lot of NPCs, players and mobs just pop up in my screen, and running around Tarantia also gives me a framedrop every 10-15 seconds. My specs : Duo Core E6600 @ 2.4ghz 2 GB 6400 DDR2 RAM ATI Radeon HD2900XT Windows XP fully updated (directX 9.0c)

add 2GB ram + replace your graphics card + upgrade to Vista x64 SP1 (clean format) and your problem will be solved imho. Replacing only the graphics card and staying with XP and 2GB is also possible but you'll still have stuttering and slow performance that have almost nothing to do with fps

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Originally Posted by zanorex hello, My computer is called acer aspire 5720zg. It has; intel pentium dual core processor t2330 , 1.60 GHz 533 MHz fsb , 1MB l2 cache. 1024 nvidia geforece 8400 GS turbocache 2gb ddr2 RAM 15,4" acer screen vista I was wondering if this will be able to run AOC at low performance without constant lagging? or do I really have to upgrade the processor or graphic card to play without lagging. And what should the options be set to for the best preformance.

no, you won't be able to run AOC at low settings without constant lagging. You need a new computer...badly

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Originally Posted by Astralen Yea, I got a friend who has that card, a QuadCore and 4Gigs of ram. Hes topping 60FPS almost all the time at 1280x1024 everything max and High. Im stuck at 20-30 FPS at 1920x1200, High, SM3.0, No shadows, 4xFSAA with a 8800GTS 640MB, a E6600 and 4gigs on WinXP. *sniff*

The support for this card has alot improved by now. I'm removing the remark in OP. The update I get from you people in this thread only confirms it. Thx for that.

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Originally Posted by ivov81 I have a question about turning off Windows Search, disabeling Windows Restore and setting power management to max. performance. Doesnt Power management use the needed amount of power anyway? So lets say in games its automatically on max? Do the other 2 things give any fps gain ingame, or are they only to increase loading times? my loading in zones is only few seconds anyway so if they only increase that i wouldnt touch them. Altho i would like some fps increase since atm i have things turned on High, but no shadows because it seems to kill my performance by about 30fps (some say new ATI drivers 8.5 greatly improved that, going to try it today). I also somehow only notice around max 5 fps gain when i turn my AA from 4 to off. 5 fps isnt worth the much nicer gfx. Vista 64bit E6400 @3.0Ghz 2x2GB PC6400 Kingston @938Mhz ATI 3870 512MB 850/1280 Seagate 320GB 7200.10 fps 30 - 150 during fights in groups with magic it can drop to 20 occosionally for some reason. Other than that the game runs surprisingly well considering its looks, no stuttering or nothing. Im very pleased with Vista 64bit atm even tho many bash it till the end of the world.

not necessarily, the automatic increases and decreases can sometimes be felt in-game as stuttering. Also make sure you run SP1 since that really makes a difference. about the shadows, try running them on low, you might get better performance than no shadows at all. Try it out and see what works

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Originally Posted by XIII There is a 3gb memory barrier in most OC, exclude Vista 64-bit. You shouldn't install more than 3Gb if you're not running a 64-bit operating system. And more than that, Vista 64-bit actually seing you 8gb in your attribute window, but you wont get anything from this 4gb more, absolutelly. Most PC users, though, are still using 32-bit versions of Windows (or Linux, or whatever). Then, you'll have the same "3Gb barrier" problems no matter what processor you have. For 64-bit - as i mentioned before, same thing, your system seing you 8 gb, but actually uses only 3 GB.

The limit for 32-bit OS's is actually not 3GB but 2.8-3.5GB for fysical systems, depending on their graphic cards etc. On Vmware virtual machines it's even as high as 3.9GB. Therefore you will want to install 4GB to support and use that extra amove above 3GB. Besides that applications are indeed limited by a default 2GB barrier that can be increased to 3GB but then there's stil your OS and other programs to run...I believe my /3GB guide is clear enough on that part so I won't try to explain it any further.

Vista 64bit does not only show 8GB but also uses it effectively to cache our recent HD requests. This results in way faster loading speeds. The main feature aside from the 64-bit architecture that makes this possible is called superfetch. If you want to learn what it does and why it makes this possible you can get your info on many sources including these :

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...yzed,1532.html

http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/arc...eadyboost.aspx


http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/...you-234109.php

http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=242429

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Excuse me ??? If you had really followed my thread on the betaforums then you would have surely noticed that in the last days of close beta I announced that I would continue the thread in this forum and under this new name with even a direct link to this thread.

Still, the fact you try to protect my original content from copiers -without realizing it is really me that wrote it- kinda flatters me...if that makes sense.....so thx for that

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Originally Posted by Muro Can i get some kind of verification that Vista OEM owner truely holds license for both 32bit and 64bit?So far ive found that you are bound to 32bit _or_ 64bit only,if you have OEM.I´d be happy to use all my 4gb memory and install downloaded image 64bit Vista on my computer!

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y

(check the last posts on that page)

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/forums/in...450&forumid=16


in short: yes it's legal and yes it's confirmed to technically work to my best knowledge

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Originally Posted by Minau Indeed, im now close to giving up. Ive tried all resolutions, all different settings, formatted my PC and reinstalling windows and drivers. And i still get between 15-20 FPS no matter what ive tried (occansionly lower) Ive tried the rivatuner fix as well. low quality, high quality u name it, allways the same kind of fps ! Is there light in the tunnel or is it my puter that is to weak ? Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: OptiPlex GX620 BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05 Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 3070MB RAM Page File: 407MB used, 4549MB available DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce 8800 GT DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Display Memory: 512.0 MB Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play-bildskärm Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7516 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 5/3/2008 05:46:00, 6108160 bytes

I'm afraid your cpu is a limiting factor in your setup and slows down the performance of your card in terms of low fps. I'm afraid there is no easy upgrade...

...but still I'm a bit suprised you can't squeeze out more. But then again, the question is WHERE and WHEN are you seeing this fps ? Could you like zone from khemi to old tarantia, let go of mouse and keyboard and note your fps once it stabilizes ? That fps would at least mean a true something to me.

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Originally Posted by Humar I am currently haveing trouble running AoC, even on low. but when i tested it at www.canyourunit.com it said i should at least be over the recommended spec here are my specs * creen: 17" WXGA+ (1440 x 900) Brightview standard. Optional WXGA+ Ultra Brightview or WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050) Brightview display. * Processor: Available with Mobile AMD Turion 64 X2 dual-core processor * Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 discrete graphics with 256MB dedicated DDR2 VRAM * Card Reader: 5-in-1 digital media card reader * Four USB 2.0 ports * ExpressCard 54 slot * Wireless: Integrated wireless support for 802.11 a/b/g Wireless LAN and Bluetooth on select models * Dual hard disk drive option with combined capacity up to 240GB * 8-cell Li-Ion battery * Weight: Starting as low as 7.8 lbs * Speakers: Integrated Altec Lansing stereo speakers * OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home SP2 or Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2. Optional configuration with Microsoft's Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 * Dual stereo headphone jacks -- one with high-definition audio support (S/PDIF capable) * Optional HP webcam with integrated dual stereo microphones. Shouldn't this be enough to play it at low ?

I'm afraid it's not. I mean it will be playable but not smooth in any way. You'll have to accept that I'm afraid. It's due to the weak graphics card mostly