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Old 2nd January 2009, 19:45     Craggoth is offline   #1
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Default Newish Demo - need advice for Spells & Feats

Ok ive been playing a couple of days now and am lvl 25. Ive tried to read up as much as possible about training my demo char but im getting a bit miffed with regards to the feats.

Ive got a few rank 2 skills like Fire of Gehenna and Shockstrike and having read on the forums that Conflag are the best to train Ive put my current points into

Deeper Fires 5/5
Pyromancer 5/5
Fluidic Fires 2/5
Lingerinf Flames 1/5
Blazing Fire 3/3

Spell - Demonic War 1/2


Now what is miffing me off is that my Electical Damgage is far greater than Fire even though ive put all my current feat points into Conflag and nothing else so why isnt my fire magic doing more damage ?

What also is bugging me is that Blazing Fire at 3/3 should add 100% chance of applying INCINCERATE to the Hellfire Stream but it DOESNT !! and Hellfire stream rank 2 is weak anyway. Fire of Gehenna 2 has incinerate 1 yet in 2 days Ive only seen enemies catch fire a couple of times ... so much for 100% chance.

Something tell me the Feats are badly bugged.

So basically I need some advice on what to aim for next my main goals are detonation, Back draft and let them burn. What else should I train ? and should I put any points into the Havoc or General trees ?

The way I feel about this char and the magic is that i would be better off seeking a trainer a removing most of my points from conflag and moving them to havoc as seen as electrical magic is stronger that fire eve with 25lvls worth of feats points added to it.

One final question.. When casting attack spells is there a special way to do it to add combos and effects (incerate) or is it just simply click the spell and let it cast ? , maybe theres a timing issue when clicking the next spell I dont know , what do you guys think ?

Thanks in advance for any info


*UPDATE*

Just removed all my feat points with the trainer and my Gehenna and Shockstrike etc are all doing exactly the same damage type and amount LOL ... so what am I missing ??

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Old 2nd January 2009, 19:55     Tsuniko is offline   #2
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have you buffed yourself with the +fire magic rating buff?
Old 2nd January 2009, 20:30     Craggoth is offline   #3
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have you buffed yourself with the +fire magic rating buff?
If you mean infernal Knowledge then yes im buffed .. also some of my gear has +fire damage I have no +Electical ratings atm.

so this doesnt explain why Electic spells do more damage even when Conflag (fire) had 17 feat points which I removed and funilly enough nothing has changed im still doing the same amount of damages so Im wondering wth my feat points are for.

I dont need scrolls or anything to make my feats work do I ?
Old 2nd January 2009, 20:37     Tsuniko is offline   #4
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are you sure its the one that adds to fire magic rating? Because there are two buffs, maybe you are buffing the electric one and then using fire nukes which is why it seems like your electric nukes hit the same as your feated fire ones.
Old 2nd January 2009, 21:18     Craggoth is offline   #5
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Honesly Infernal Knowledge is the fire buff and Diabolic insight is the electical buff .. you can only use one of them at a time and I use the Infernal knowledge (fire) buff at all times which gives me + 8.4 fire rating atm.

As i said before I have now reclaimed all my feat points and damage dealing fire or electical is still the same therefore my Feat points were having no effects on my magic and spell damage.

This is why I need advice from a high lvl char preferably a Demonologist becuase its just not making sense.
Old 2nd January 2009, 21:33     Tsuniko is offline   #6
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spells have a damage RANGE, so maybe you're just getting unlucky hits? From what I remember from playing my demo, shockstrike was supposed to do LESS damage than fires of gehenna.

You could also be bugged ingame, try asking for a GM to reset your magic rating and see if anything improves.
Old 2nd January 2009, 22:25     Nayazera is offline   #7
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shockstrike by itself is more powerful than FoG, in early lvl's. it's not the same spells, they are not entierly comparable.

incinerate, I think you are confusing with your fatality, where the enemies catch fire and start screaming. look at the mob's buff bar, there will be a fire-ish icon, and it will go up in count. you really have to watch ^^. feated, HS does apply it 100%, I've never had any trouble with that.
there really isn't anything wrong with the build you have to far. I'd focus on splash before actual dmg, because the spash on a FoG is rather good. Also, I'd wait on demonic war, and skip that rank entierly for now, going to detonation as soon as you can.
also, you should have some points in general. either stopping at purge, or going all the way to the tome. both choices are good. Having archmage feated soon-ish is good for lvling. I'd hold on for the rest until later, whenever you plan to pvp. then I'd get purge asap.


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Old 2nd January 2009, 22:26     Tsuniko is offline   #8
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you want living firestorm also, its a great AoE. Especially if you happen to b grouped with a ToS with the right feat build.
Old 2nd January 2009, 22:30     Nayazera is offline   #9
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you want living firestorm also, its a great AoE. Especially if you happen to b grouped with a ToS with the right feat build.
ah yes, good point. it's a good one for lvl'ing. drop it later on though, it's dmg really doesn't scale enough to make it worth the point at later lvl's.
Old 2nd January 2009, 23:21     Craggoth is offline   #10
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Ok I can see now what incinerate does ... -1 health on the target per second for a period of time.

-1 What the f... that aint worth the script its wrote in.

As for Fires of Gehenna Rank 2 dmg hitpoints is 143-238 basic. So i added 5 points to Deeper Fire to max it out.

"Power Increase Effects : +5% Increase to Damage or Healing Fire of Gehenna"
" Increases the Damage done by the Fires of Gehenna Invocation"

and guess what ? FoG still has a damage of 143-238 hit points ... wheres the +5% increase ?? Shouldnt the skill now read 150-249 ??

Either I dont understand the Feats properly or they are explained wrong on the info tabs becuase it doesnt add up.

Dont suppose an Admin will comment on this ?

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