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Old 30th May 2012, 18:57     dagdasamildanac is offline   #11
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Yeah how come this feat is not worth when its workin as intended :/ ****in joke players seriously


Anyway you dont need anything else than 1 or 2kb on barb to kill someone. Not even sure that you need ccs actually. Stagger people by usin bone shatter / Jagged Cut at 5 meters behind them while in the back, you ll need + range feated tho (you dont even need to look at your opponent, you can also be like 180° in the other way than him, you ll still apply stagger), use stun or kb (every rogue use excellent balance all the time so just keep usin stuns and reserve your kb for that cripple demo you ll encounter later) , burst / kill, can't be more simple.

If you have problems at finishin off people or simply not beein able to follow - run behind them while doin combos it's a l2p issue.

That or you are facin rangers that just outrun everyone without a single reason but still, for them you have enhanced jagged cut for the stagger with 5m range so
Lol i really laugh at what you are saying - staggering with jagged cut/bone shatter? Pure luck as any other class can make it plus its only 4 seconds when you can be cced too ... on other side there is long time known problem with reaver barb having zero ccs which is ohnestly wrong choice from makers of the game, here quit simillar class - conq, he can have 2 snares and one usable 99% of time and he is even stronger then barb - heavy/plate armor wearer. If i would be fair and square to others i would give aoe shout-fear or root/snare somewhere into reaver feat tree, and pls stop assasins from accesing forum this is another clicker nab fail class with longer reach then 2 handers, having best cc in game - stun fear kb root and aditionall cc possible - good that times when sin could chain insta cc are gone, and to all others who think that assasin is gimped - fastest kb in game (melee one) 1s casting time for fear or even faster stun plus insta root on charge which is still op in my eyes and on top of that avatar...

Ofc we are talking about possibly weakest class in game when undergeared or with no aa - holy cow barbarian when his times of which you could be proud of are gone! Ohnestly do something with reaver barb coz he is pathetic in dueling with all other classes or at the same time he is weak prey in mini games, occasionally making some score.

And when we are talking about other cc of other classes lets remind us of demo who can have 2 stuns 2 roots 2 knockbacks and one heavy snare and he is insta ranged killing machine or we can talk about ranger who can kite for hours and he have plenty of cc too (at least 2 kb - possibly 3, insta root, 2 snares, fear and stun) and all of them at unreasonably low cd rate. So pls dont bs us when we barbs want to talk fair.

And one thing to person who i was aiming my post for - Sygma stop bs 2 or leave us to be - i was 2 comboed by other dt one day on my best char i can play - barb with best survivalability build - the one with unstopable and cc breaks from general, he just made 2 combos one for 6k (not the dooming presence one) and simply finished me off with another. SO pls stop arguing especially when you are soldier and you know that this game is long time broken and unablanced where tank classes can easily outdish more dps than rouges and especially barbs!
Old 30th May 2012, 19:24     Mayn is offline   #12
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I actually think reaver barb spec having no CC is fair balance and gameplay wise.

Deep berserk has no real dmg, but enemy cant see CCs coming as easy.

Reaver can 2shot you, but everytime you want to CC you swich weapon, giving your opponent a hint before it happens.

If reaver could CC without any warning and can 2 shot that would be too imba :P The dmg is kinda too imba as it is xD

Its same thing with cong, they swich to dual wield for fear, or 2h for KB. Noticing stuff like this is a part of skill in aoc id like to keep intact, observing your opponent should always pay off.
Old 30th May 2012, 21:58     Vehl is offline   #13
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Its same thing with cong, they swich to dual wield for fear, or 2h for KB. Noticing stuff like this is a part of skill in aoc id like to keep intact, observing your opponent should always pay off.
I think he was talking about carnage conq. But still a carnage conq need 3 step combo to deal max dps. Reaver with crush armor burst faster than us
Old 30th May 2012, 23:00     reddrum is offline   #14
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also it's far worse for conq for that matter. cos when you switch weps your opponent will know the exact CC you may use. at least with barb there are 2 possibilities. but whatever.. chances are your opponent might double tap or kite 1/5 maybe worse.

@dagdasamildanak

what you said about soldiers is not entirely wrong at least for guard and dt but nerfing soldiers is not the solution, you want every soldier to be like brute conq and make fun of them till morning with blood rage. if you havent kited that dt, havent stacked some blood rage, havent used cc break while he was fearing you and got hit with those 3 combos in a row with his 1he range you should compare yourself to a tree first then you may consider posting it as an example and decide not to.
Old 2nd June 2012, 09:42     Lucanus is offline   #15
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Put root in Bliz, it's best solution and make meny reavers happy.
It help alot catching casters.

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Old 2nd June 2012, 10:04     -Legend- is offline   #16
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Put root in Bliz, it's best solution and make meny reavers happy.
It help alot catching casters.
If you're reaver that's what haste is for. rogues should never have a problem catch casters, +5% speed and stam...
Old 2nd June 2012, 10:09     Lucanus is offline   #17
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If you're reaver that's what haste is for. rogues should never have a problem catch casters, +5% speed and stam...

I am Berserker.
Haste is better DMG buff than speed buff and is stupid idea use it before fight is happend.

Haste give +82% to weapon damage/10seconds and accelerate all combos.

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Old 2nd June 2012, 10:16     Dunngarm is offline   #18
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Put root in Bliz, it's best solution and make meny reavers happy.
It help alot catching casters.
No-no-no, it should be much deeper in the tree if it should be at all.
Old 2nd June 2012, 10:58     -Legend- is offline   #19
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I am Berserker.
Haste is better DMG buff than speed buff and is stupid idea use it before fight is happend.

Haste give +82% to weapon damage/10seconds and accelerate all combos.
Are you retarded? You can use it for both. It keeps casters from outrunning you while you burn them down. If you're one of those people that complain about ranged players but doesn't but don't use all your ablities to take them down the moment you see them, that's too bad.

Also you have arcane maruder if you're zerker, you have nothing to complain about.

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No-no-no, it should be much deeper in the tree if it should be at all.
Yep. that's the type of feat that should be as far down as the CC break.
Old 2nd June 2012, 11:25     Lucanus is offline   #20
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No-no-no, it should be much deeper in the tree if it should be at all.
Are you typical idiot, we not want weaken berserker or reaver, we want make stronger barbarian class.

Stop now stupid class jealousy and start cooperation what help both side.

Ranger is now fine class because both weapon side are open.

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