[redevil82]

I like:
phase 1 = 5,5,3,11
phase 2 = 5,5,7,7

[Ekorn]

One single necro, ranger or demo can take the KB all by himself, making it only 1 person + the two that clicked in that quad (the priest that heals that one person can be in any other quad at the time the blood spawns).

We do: 4, 9, 10, 1. Where clickers are from 2nd and 3rd quad every time, effectively reducing it to 4,8,9,3. Worst case scenario the priests stays (tanking Q and KB Q) and it's still 5,7,8,4, leaving room for 3 deaths before any of the priests have to think about moving out of their Q's..

[hoskuldr]

About bat.
Yeah, of course there are some rude mistakes, but they disinformation style and lack of info. Hope this week, we will check all detail's and i will renew plan. Just need few hours for final tests.

Part 1, before first teleport
http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1205/99/e51e01f3c499.png

Part 2, after teleport in any of corners
http://s019.radikal.ru/i637/1205/e9/75fdbadedf5a.png

And feedback to funcom raid inctace encounter developers:
Clearing trash mobs in 3.5 takes a lot of time. So people come to 1st boss encounter already tired. And they have less time for encounter itself. And every day(6+ hours) adds respawn. It can only provide people wasting more time and have no content doing. Is that point to prolong people playing game and not having deserved reward?
Second. After first boss down 12 adds coming. Raid can waste time and kill them or just relogin. I think any guild not so stupid that belives that relogin is exploit, and adds should be killed.
Third. First boss encounter hard even for exped and geared people with voice chat, and provide "not so good" reward. I can to t4 same gear i do t3.5 and get better loot, so any point to obtain gear in such hard encounter? See none.
And what we have? 1 week cooldown raids, few loot that can be divided between 24 people, no t4 token burst, hard adds, everyday respawn of adds, hard fist boss encounter, loot a bit better compare to khitai. Is the point of developers to make people stuck doing raidcontent and keep paying money? And surely new content incoming too slow, especially with guilds that call themselfs "UBA", frendshiping each other(and friendshiping posibly with gm's( there is chance this possibility can exist)) and not releasing tactics. This not awesome.

[Misiuggah]

Erlik trash is really annoying for those who train Archfiend - in the beginning it would take us around 1h to clear them, so loosing 1h every evening just to wipe a few times isn't something most people call enjoying

Relogging on adds before Zaal is retarded - just remove them, nothing exciting killing more once you learn how to do it. Feels like Kyllikki again and my hands really hated it If only they would drop T4 tokens or something like that...

[Aelona]

@ Hoskuldr : I m all up to give Zodiac tact and cookies, its just that since T4 is released we had like 3 evenings of tries, or 4, maximum on it and we can't have others for now, not with the regular basis needed at least so we fill our time elsewhere.

Otherwise :

Clearing trash mobs in 3.5 takes a lot of time.

It take 20 mins maximum if you dont slack and provide a really really high dps, you can also kill sorcerer and lector at the same time without problems


Talkin about Archfiend : you need 2 clickers till 50%, after just dont use the power transfert and let tanks hit dmg with boss fully buffed, and you'll see, it's far more simple

[Misiuggah]

Originally Posted by Sygma It take 20 mins maximum if you dont slack and provide a really really high dps, you can also kill sorcerer and lector at the same time without problems

In the beginning it takes a lot more time (over an hour before people learn how to handle the mobs) and everyone knows that after this there will be wipes on boss - it's hard to motivate people to spend evenings that way. Ofc now, when we clear it in 20-25min and relog between Archie and Zaal - people are more eager to do Erlik

Originally Posted by Sygma Talkin about Archfiend : you need 2 clickers till 50%, after just dont use the power transfert and let tanks hit dmg with boss fully buffed, and you'll see, it's far more simple

And as always, having 4 DS helps a lot

[Aelona]

We dont use a single dread on Archfiend, it's only good at messin up the path of the boss if you dont do it correctly, aka beein right in front of him and a bit in "his middle".

4 tanks - 1 heal (the last tank is a safety), and you're good to go

For the adds part : We are quite often changin of people in raid and it doesnt take much more than 20 - 30 mins maximum to do the clean up, just be really clear and most importantly insist for the "how to do it" part, aka dont stand in front of the mobs.

[Misiuggah]

Originally Posted by Sygma We dont use a single dread on Archfiend, it's only good at messin up the path of the boss if you dont do it correctly, aka beein right in front of him and a bit in "his middle". 4 tanks - 1 heal (the last tank is a safety), and you're good to go

Heh, we always go with 4 DS - we even had xbow DTs throw them from sidelines when we had too much guardians on Archie Having 4 DS is also good on Zaal (even the melee form) - lame, but it works. Pathing hell ftw!!!

For the adds part : We are quite often changin of people in raid and it doesnt take much more than 20 - 30 mins maximum to do the clean up, just be really clear and most importantly insist for the "how to do it" part, aka dont stand in front of the boss.

It's tank job (as always ), so it's time consuming only before they learn how to handle the mobs. The point was that it's not really fun - boring when on farm, discouraging/tiring for the noobs.

[Aelona]

Ha dunno, as long as it's meltin down its never boring for me :P but yeah you have a good point

[-Legend-]

Originally Posted by Sygma It take 20 mins maximum if you dont slack and provide a really really high dps, you can also kill sorcerer and lector at the same time without problems

I think 20 mins is a long time for trash... boss encounters take less time than the trash is stupid.