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Old 15th April 2012, 13:33     Boemondo is offline   #1
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Hi fellow conquerors!

I feel a bit squishy nowadays so i was tinking about Burning Vigor.
I know it's not a great heal, but in jhebbal or when you carry a flag...it could make the difference.

What's your opinion about it?
http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...004-23,4015-21
Old 17th April 2012, 14:06     jauertussen is offline   #2
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in minigames in general u will recive a decent amount of hp from it, with all the dots and so. have never parsed it but feel thoes times i feated it it made a diffence, the question is if the points better spend some where els.
Old 18th April 2012, 11:43     Chord is offline   #3
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Originally Posted by Boemondo View Post
Hi fellow conquerors!

I feel a bit squishy nowadays so i was tinking about Burning Vigor.
I know it's not a great heal, but in jhebbal or when you carry a flag...it could make the difference.

What's your opinion about it?
http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...004-23,4015-21

small impovements from me:

http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...015-21,4013-21

melee dmg on carnage is not so painfull as mage dmg. So u should focus on all way protection (and burning vigor here is like some +% to ur protection, but if u geared well!) and take as much dps in feats as u can.

So Cunning deflect is good in every way of game.

Deepwounds are better when it feated 5\5 (and if u use Whirlwind dw is a must, imho)

Fierce opening is great for Whirlwind so 3\3 - opener of Whirwind rocks

Rend and tear u can skip, I think...Totally. U use whirwind,so no time to BB7. Use free 6 feats to increase weapon dmg
Old 19th April 2012, 10:23     Boemondo is offline   #4
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small impovements from me:

http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...015-21,4013-21

melee dmg on carnage is not so painfull as mage dmg. So u should focus on all way protection (and burning vigor here is like some +% to ur protection, but if u geared well!) and take as much dps in feats as u can.

So Cunning deflect is good in every way of game.

Deepwounds are better when it feated 5\5 (and if u use Whirlwind dw is a must, imho)

Fierce opening is great for Whirlwind so 3\3 - opener of Whirwind rocks

Rend and tear u can skip, I think...Totally. U use whirwind,so no time to BB7. Use free 6 feats to increase weapon dmg
Good suggestion!
I already tried Burning vigor and i must admit that i expeted worst...healing is fine.

Anyway i dont like dropping Iron skin due to several reasons.
I rather try something like that:
http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...012-23,4015-21

or like that:
http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...015-21,4013-21

The difference is on Volcanic rage...i tried it when i was brute and i noticed it was nothing special, but never tested on carnage.
Did some of you tested it?
Old 19th April 2012, 12:19     Chord is offline   #5
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Good suggestion!
I already tried Burning vigor and i must admit that i expeted worst...healing is fine.

Anyway i dont like dropping Iron skin due to several reasons.
I rather try something like that:
http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...012-23,4015-21

or like that:
http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...015-21,4013-21

The difference is on Volcanic rage...i tried it when i was brute and i noticed it was nothing special, but never tested on carnage.
Did some of you tested it?
I did.

With focus on Whirlwind (WW)Vulcanic is not a critical feat, imho. Nice bonus if u have free feat. Long cd when WW has 10 sec cd.

After all, I think it would be better for u to improve frenzy stance (Improve and guarded frenzy) - if u want get some kill u should rotate def-frenzy (stance-dance) and it much more better than Iron Skin or sustaned rage. Place ur WW finisher in frenzy stance and don't be aware about input dmg or CC, cause u will have enough mitigation and protection (about 15% mitigation and same to protection with AA and pvp t2 gear), beside u have cunning deflect so stance dance will not be so deadfull for ya.

http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...011-23,4015-21

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Old 20th April 2012, 15:01     Boemondo is offline   #6
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I did.

With focus on Whirlwind (WW)Vulcanic is not a critical feat, imho. Nice bonus if u have free feat. Long cd when WW has 10 sec cd.

After all, I think it would be better for u to improve frenzy stance (Improve and guarded frenzy) - if u want get some kill u should rotate def-frenzy (stance-dance) and it much more better than Iron Skin or sustaned rage. Place ur WW finisher in frenzy stance and don't be aware about input dmg or CC, cause u will have enough mitigation and protection (about 15% mitigation and same to protection with AA and pvp t2 gear), beside u have cunning deflect so stance dance will not be so deadfull for ya.

http://aoc.yg.com/feat-planner?class...011-23,4015-21
I finally choose the build without Volcanic rage, it works quite well.
I find your build a very good one Chord, maybe i'll try it as soon as i hit pvp7, but, due to my play style, I doubt i'll use it for a long time.
I wont drop a single point from iron skin...love too much to carry a stick ,-)

Thank you all for tips
Old 21st April 2012, 19:18     jauertussen is offline   #7
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i dont agree that is good to spec. the 8 points u use will be better used with 5 in sub rage and 3 in iron skin
 

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